Summoner a whole disappointment for pet-class lovers?

[Raubahn]

but having 4 pets sounds to me very like the 5 skill restriction we have now. 4 skills for the new summons... 1 skill (15 minutes) for astral flow.

yes and 5 other to control the pet "attack> draw> buff > ws and retreat as in unsummon" :P

[Tonkra]

yes and 5 other to control the pet "attack> draw> buff > ws and retreat as in unsummon" :P

no... these are going to be the basic skills from arcanist for sure... you have to use "attack" "buff" etc. for carby as well.

[Raubahn]

no... these are going to be the basic skills from arcanist for sure... you have to use "attack" "buff" etc. for carby as well.

XD i know i was just playing with you but maybe the other 5 are normal abilities who knows and like you said we dont have much of info on them and thats the disappointment.

[Tonkra]

XD i know i was just playing with you but maybe the other 5 are normal abilities who knows and like you said we dont have much of info on them and thats the disappointment.

how do you get to the conclusion that we'll have 10 job skills in ARR? it does look like that there still be the restriction of 5 skills. (ok taking into account that lv 50 is not going to be the end cap forever).

the most i am afraid of is if the pets of the summoner job are really going to be permant pets which are walking along with you or if they are going to be just an other version of animated attack spells.

[Raubahn]

how do you get to the conclusion that we'll have 10 job skills in ARR? it does look like that there still be the restriction of 5 skills. (ok taking into account that lv 50 is not going to be the end cap forever).

the most i am afraid of is if the pets of the summoner job are really going to be permant pets which are walking along with you or if they are going to be just an other version of animated attack spells.

the conclusion or how i got to it is that Arcanist is Debuffer-DoT type class but SMN is not a debuffer or even a DoT job so they will take a few spells abilities hence that smn cant use carbuncle or more specifically cant summon it by his side. so takig into consideration that SMN will not have carbuncle and isnt a Debuffer or dot job that means they are taking these from arcanist when u switch to SMN. So that means they are cutting down the abilities of the class if you are a job making you as a job have less abilities which makes no sense to me atleast and they will attempt to make a balance. imagine a BLM in ARR without Sanguine rite or even without the Necro abilitiy (forget its name).

plus the way they remove class abilities when u change to a job makes a total sense for "Class to Job diversities". For example they introduce thf as part of the GLD path but remove Sentinel rampart flash tempered will war drum and outmaneuver (i know i listed six abilities) but at the same time they exchange these with 6 abilities that define the thf job.

i know its a complex because i myself not a very good at words english isnt my native language after all but i do share ur worries if they will be attack spells which breaks the whole concept for SMN as a pet class