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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post

    I'm not. I'm don't know what this persons age or occupation is, but based on his lack of knowledge on the subject I think its pretty safe to assume he lied about his occupation.

    Pro tip, just because someone says something doesn't make it true. There's this thing called lying, and people tend to do it on the internet.
    True, people have been known to fib a bit on the internet. But there are plenty of FFXIV players who work in the Information Technology field.

    What evidence do you have to prove that he doesn't do work as a Network Engineer? He seems to know what he's talking about, to me, and I've been doing IT for about 8 years now.

    Oh, sorry, but I guess you don't believe that.

    Lol. But do continue, it's pretty fun to read. I have about two more hours left here at work.
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahldon View Post
    True, people have been known to fib a bit on the internet. But there are plenty of FFXIV players who work in the Information Technology field.

    What evidence do you have to prove that he doesn't do work as a Network Engineer? He seems to know what he's talking about, to me, and I've been doing IT for about 8 years now.

    Oh, sorry, but I guess you don't believe that.

    Lol. But do continue, it's pretty fun to read. I have about two more hours left here at work.
    I'm just going off the fact that it isn't possible to make connections faster for everyone in one region by adding some kind of mystery machine. This sort of thing doesn't exist. Kind of proves he lied about his occupation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Lol I seriously can't tell at this point if you are taking the things I say out of context for the take of argument or if you are just that oblivious.

    Maybe you should take a break from posting for a while, you seem pretty upset, and you haven't posted anything productive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    You gave up arguing with me because I disproved everything you said. You were trying to tell me that distance has nothing to do with latency lol... and suggesting that FFXIV using peeing is really wild, the only peering FFXIV uses is for it's updates. Do you even know what peering is?
    Your post. I took nothing out of context. I'm sure others will read into your response the same way I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    I'm just going off the fact that it isn't possible to make connections faster for everyone in one region by adding some kind of mystery machine. This sort of thing doesn't exist.
    Once again its not a 'mystery machine' its called a private leased line network.
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    Personally it will be interesting to see what the devs have to say about this on Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Personally it will be interesting to see what the devs have to say about this on Monday.
    Indeed, me too. I mean we all may very well be wrong. It could be they plan server mirrors/relays over a leased line network as I described. Or it could very well be regional specific servers. We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    Indeed, me too. I mean we all may very well be wrong. It could be they plan server mirrors/relays over a leased line network as I described. Or it could very well be regional specific servers. We shall see.
    Is this what you think they are gonna do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AS...connection.svg
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    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    Your post. I took nothing out of context. I'm sure others will read into your response the same way I did.
    Yeah, and in my discussion with that person they suggested that your Final Fantasy XIV uses peering. What ISPs do =/= what FFXIV does... My statement is correct that the only peering that FFXIV directly does is during updates through p2p. Don't blame me for your misinterpretation.

    Quote Originally Posted by AarosLunos View Post
    Once again its not a 'mystery machine' its called a private leased line network.
    the term "leased line" doesn't even remotely apply to the subject being discussed here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Is this what you think they are gonna do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AS...connection.svg
    Didn't you just bash me for using Wikipedia? And no, that illustration doesn't apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mijin View Post
    Didn't you just bash me for using Wikipedia? And no, that illustration doesn't apply.
    Actually it does apply. SE very likely has their own ASN for BGP peering and route announcements. Assuming they build data centers in two other regions, they could perform BGP route announcements in such a way that reduces transit time.

    Still doing lookups, found the follow ASNs so far:

    AS17685 - PLAYONLINE SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
    in -> as-block: AS17408 - AS18409

    AS23784 - POLEXCHENGE SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
    in -> as-block: AS23773 - AS23836

    Going to take a look in those blocks might be they have some IP address ranges assigned for XIV specifically. I imagine SE, as a software business, requires a lot of bandwidth. MMOs even further expand that requirement. I imagine SE DOES have direct peering agreements with multiple Japanese carriers, throughout Europe and the Americas. Especially since they have offices in those locations.
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    Last edited by AarosLunos; 09-10-2012 at 07:43 AM.

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    Didn't you just bash me for using Wikipedia? And no, that illustration doesn't apply.
    I didn't bash you, you called him out for using google search when you was doing the same thing...I never said it was wrong to use it. You said it was wrong to use google search for claims then in turn did it your self..... I was asking him a question cause i looked up what network peering was and i got linked tot hat photo...
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