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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    No, it's completely not understandable. From my experience, and the experience of many many people, Japanese don't want to play with any gaijin, so you know what, let them be in their own little ffxiv world, just like irl. IDRC and neither should you, or anybody. Why play a game with people you can't communicate with. Playing with Japanese or any other nationality you can't communicate with is just one small step above playing a game with Helen Keller.

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    Can't wait for the ass-hattery that is going to come out of the enraged Japanese players who get stuck with Americans in the content finder. INB4 Search: Japanese only.
    I can attest to this. At least part of it. I have joined many "JP only" PT's..which should mean, Japanese language only, no? So anyway..I joined a LOT of those in my early days of FFXI...and when I would join they would call me a gaijin and ask me to leave, despite my Japanese being perfectly fine (I have taken 15 years of the language) I was like wtf....I was not rude or anything to them. o.O I understand their culture quite well (Was an exchange student there for many years growing up, etc) and studied it a lot. I did not say or do anything ridiculous, just said hello, thank you for inviting me. where shall we exp today, etc.

    In other PT's I would join...a lot of JP would not know I could read what they were saying..and would make fun of my English speaking friends (most of my friends were quiet in the PT, and very, very polite, good players also) and act quite racist...I was taken aback by this. Especially since it happened a lot....

    and before people think this....by no means am I claiming ALL Japanese players are this way..no, no they are not lol. Most of them are very sweet and kind...I have many Japanese friends I love to death. It is as someone said earlier...everywhere on this earth has jerks..and I've come across quite a handful of players that are this way in FFXI. In FFXIV not so much. The Japanese have always been more then happy to play with me and very patient and kind.

    It is atrocious how people will kick someone from a party...really. I can understand doing it if someone is being rude and causing ridiculous drama. But anything else..come on....:/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    I can attest to this. At least part of it. I have joined many "JP only" PT's..which should mean, Japanese language only, no? So anyway..I joined a LOT of those in my early days of FFXI...and when I would join they would call me a gaijin and ask me to leave, despite my Japanese being perfectly fine (I have taken 15 years of the language) I was like wtf....I was not rude or anything to them. o.O I understand their culture quite well (Was an exchange student there for many years growing up, etc) and studied it a lot. I did not say or do anything ridiculous, just said hello, thank you for inviting me. where shall we exp today, etc.

    In other PT's I would join...a lot of JP would not know I could read what they were saying..and would make fun of my English speaking friends (most of my friends were quiet in the PT, and very, very polite, good players also) and act quite racist...I was taken aback by this. Especially since it happened a lot....

    and before people think this....by no means am I claiming ALL Japanese players are this way..no, no they are not lol. Most of them are very sweet and kind...I have many Japanese friends I love to death. It is as someone said earlier...everywhere on this earth has jerks..and I've come across quite a handful of players that are this way in FFXI. In FFXIV not so much. The Japanese have always been more then happy to play with me and very patient and kind.

    It is atrocious how people will kick someone from a party...really. I can understand doing it if someone is being rude and causing ridiculous drama. But anything else..come on....:/
    Ya sadly I know not personally but know these type of people too. They are a small selection of Japanese....

    Heck another short story from something I have picked up on in my past year since I started school (been here longer but never saw this till now) is The black car van racist Japanese Supremists in Japan. They purposefully in their black vans and imperial japanese flag and anthem blare it as well as hateful propaganda anywhere they know a lot of foriegners are. Mainly in the Roppongi/Minato area of Tokyo because that is where most of the Embassies and my school is located. They don't care but as you said it is not all. They are just people that believe half truths and such.

    Your post also reminded me of a very vocal racist Japanese player on Siren server in my XI times. He would shout in a busy city telling us gaijin to get off their game and that we dirty up their world and ruin their experience. I have also been in parties with JP at the same time on FFXI and had the time of my life.

    Anyways, I don't see the problem I have seen it since XI we have always made our own cultural groupings in the FF MMO's and we most times stay in our comfort zones, can't fault anyone for that. If you do come across a rude player no matter what the case blacklist them and also let your friends know that they are rude selfish/racist players. It probably won't do anything but it might help resolve something too.

    What I want to get at though is you can't force someone to play with you because they don't. If they don't want to and you are a fun person to play with its their loss, find another group and enjoy the game, don't let a small community of secularist ruin the game for you.
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