Are there still gonna be worldwide servers?

[Norack]

There's nothing wrong with using wikipedia to find things, but you need to go to the cited sources, and then cite THOSE, if they seem reliable. I don't know any teachers that automatically failed you for using wikipedia (properly, that is). Wikipedia is a secondary source, not a primary source, and is fine to use as long as it's not cited as if it were one.

I completely agree. The only problem is ppl cite it as a primary source. And I guess I shouldnt say every school idk but every school and college I have ever been to if you cite wikipedia, thats an automatic F.

[Wynn]

In any school or reputable college if you use Wikipedia as a source the teacher calls you a freaking moron and a automatic F. I don't understand why ppl on the internet think they can use it as a reputable source.

The Kingdom of Academia is a bizarre land where all manner of rules and regulations exist that boggle the mind of people in the real world. It isn't something we should encourage outside their borders.

Besides... what IS a reputable source? Some grad student who read a book of a guy who read a book of a gal who read a book of a guy in order to write a book and parrot back what his/her instructors wanted to hear?

Just because something is on wikipedia doesn't mean it is false information. In fact, the opposite is more likely to be true.

Because... while it is possible for someone to falsify information there, knowingly or otherwise, it is even more likely to be instantly noticed my some expert (interestingly enough probably someone from that crazy Kingdom of Academia) and fixed.

To the topic: I don't know why this is causing such a big ruckus. We have quite literally known for months and months and months that the YP man was planning to bring us region based servers that we could choose to play on if we wished.

[Zumi]

All the servers are still going to be worldwide. The only thing that's going to change is the physical location of some of the servers.

Why do people keep posting about this? It was very clear, yet people are acting like the world is going to end.

I think the issue is some people don't like it because they think people will self segregate themselves. Like most JP will play on the servers located in Japan , most US will pick the US ones, most EU will pick the EU ones. Most of the people complaing about the new servers they are setting up seem to be upset because there won't be an abundance of JP players on them or something because JPs will more then likly stick to the ones located in Japan.

This really isn't an issue to me at all because I would pick the ones that give me the least latency, and if there's more people who speak English on my servers that's also a plus.

[Soukyuu]

Translators do that because they repeat stuff and don't need to translate every little thing. They got you all the important info. Unless you know Japanese and can point out what they left out.

I already did in the post you quoted. I don't remember if there was anything else, will have to rewatch that part.

edit: after rewatching, there wasn't much more to say after all. My comment was more about the whole presentation, especially the fact they didnt translate the slides. With multiple discussions on regional servers, including the "video translated" thread, I seem to have posted it in the wrong one :x

They still have to elaborate on how present character data will be ported. I'm guessing we will be just stuck onto the "JP" servers, or get mirrored unto all of them. One thing they absolutely should not do is split character data according to SE account region. That will just kill the ingame community.

Really though, one real unique feature of FFMMO were the global servers... and now those are gone.

[Dawiichan]

Anything is possible.

Anything.

It is already kinda that way if you think about it. The server "Balmung" is not only one big computer. It is multiple computers talking together and exchanging data.

I'm sure it already happened to you when walking outside of Ul'dah. Some times you cross players with their names "greyed" out. These players are in a different zone (different computer) but still, the 2 computers/zones talk between themselves.

The only diffrence now is that there will be more computers and instead of being in the same building, they will be spread across the world in different data centers.

Sure, they didn't explain it to us that way, because we don't have to know that. But they never said we would play separated. Actually, I'm sure i have read mutliple times that the servers would stay "multi-region" or whatever you call it.

Edit : For your information, the biggest part of my job is managing and fixing network traffic in networks of over 2000 devices spread across multiple building/cities. While I'm not a game programmer, I understand how that kind of stuff works.

What I mean is that if you have different locations, even if it is spread up between regions, the servers can't be simultaneously together at an instant. What you implied is that NA server and JP server run independently for extended periods of time until they send a mass amount of information to a single point. Wouldn't the time before they send the mass amount of information be two completely different servers? Right now it's more of a gateway to the server in JP, however to hold back information while still running in the same servers doesn't seem to add up. In the end it still has to be sent, so I don't see how it can work.

[Soukyuu]

Right now it's more of a gateway to the server in JP, however to hold back information while still running in the same servers doesn't seem to add up. In the end it still has to be sent, so I don't see how it can work.

This is correct, however as I said somewhere else, if it's SE who sets up their datacenters, they can try to optimize the routes the synch signals go over, decreasing latency times.

For an EU user, the chance to get a good route to an EU server/gateway is higher than to a JP one, since the route the signal goes through is outside our control. So with us getting a good ping to the EU gateway, and that gateway having an optimal route to Japan/US, the latency should be smaller.

It might be too much traffic to synchronize all the things happening ingame though, so most likely we will end up with simple regional servers.

[Asiaine]

This is correct, however as I said somewhere else, if it's SE who sets up their datacenters, they can try to optimize the routes the synch signals go over, decreasing latency times.

This may not be what they meant when they talked about new servers (or datacenters or whatever). There did not appear to be any mention of 'optimized routing' or regional gateways to a central server.

It really appears that it was just as simple as 'regional servers', and nothing more fancy than that. Which means, a server in the region that stands on its own and everyone connects there and that's it.

Regional gateways is of course feasible, not sure if anyone does this. But it's a completely different solution. Not sure that is what he meant, and if it is, he was incredibly vague about it to the point he was suggesting something else.

As for 'regional datacenters' not sure that is what some might think. As there would still need to be communication to a central location at all times (and thus not the solution to the latency problem that this statement was given in a context of).

I fear it may be as simple as:
Group of servers in East Coast USA
Group of servers in West Coast USA
One server UK/EU?
Group of servers in Japan
(And one in China).

I also think those who want PvP will end up choosing their nearest server, as I have been told that every millisecond counts in PvP.

[Mijin]

In any school or reputable college if you use Wikipedia as a source the teacher calls you a freaking moron and a automatic F. I don't understand why ppl on the internet think they can use it as a reputable source.

Sorry I graduated collage a long time ago, before Wikepedia existed in fact, so I'm allowed to use Wiki now lol. I'm sure that the reason your English professor for your little writing 101/102 class doesn't want you to use wiki is because he wants you to be able to cite your work in MLA format.

That aside, maybe you will prefer this link? http://webhosting.about.com/od/Web-H...Management.htm

Really to be honest any simple Google search can give you the same answer; it's not just wiki. It just so happened that Wikipedia was the first url, and the one I chose to copy paste. I'll tell you though in my opinion a source that can be edited by everybody is a lot more reliable than the opinion of just one person on the internet. Wikipedia is amazing. It's possible that you'll catch a glimpse of false information once in a great while, but that's true with anywhere. At least on Wikipedia it gets corrected.

[Soukyuu]

This may not be what they meant when they talked about new servers (or datacenters or whatever). There did not appear to be any mention of 'optimized routing' or regional gateways to a central server.

It really appears that it was just as simple as 'regional servers', and nothing more fancy than that. Which means, a server in the region that stands on its own and everyone connects there and that's it.

I know. The synching and optimizing the routes is just wishful thinking on some people's part, including me

[Asiaine]

I know. The synching and optimizing the routes is just wishful thinking on some people's part, including me

I hope what SE does next time is make it really clear from the start what types of servers we can join and encourages everyone accordingly to join the 'right' type of server. For example:

-- NA Only (Open to all but aimed at those who want to be only with NA people, hosted in USA)
-- JP Only (Open to all but aimed at those who want to be with JP only, hosted in Japan)
-- EU Only (Open to all but aimed at those who want to be with other EU -- regardless of language -- only, hosted in the EU)

-- International (Open to all and aimed at those who want to be in a full international community of all languages -- hosted in Japan)

(I do not think we need an RP dedicated server, as it is mostly done within the LS regardless and therefore can be done happilly on all servers. Nor do I think we need a PvP server as it will not be open-world PvP).


This way those who care about ping times more than anything or only want to play with people from their area can choose a specific server. And those who like the idea of an international community can go to the international server.

And if its clearly indicated from the start, then there will be less confusion and mis-world joining.

Maybe this would work....