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  1. #91
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtuso View Post
    I've seen enough elitism and judgments passed on players based on their gear in XI to not care about XIV adopting a gear score. Just makes it easier for players to figure out which set of gear is better for them.
    To join a pick up group in FFXI people expect you have a relic or empyrean weapon now. But that only cause the game has been out so long and they aren't exactly hard to get anymore.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    I personally think this is a terrible idea
    Another wow feature

    This game is becoming a wow clone
    Gearscore was a UI mod, not created by or endorsed by Blizzard, who made WoW.
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  3. #93
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Gearscore was a UI mod, not created by or endorsed by Blizzard, who made WoW.
    However Blizzard took the idea and put it in their own UI called it item level or ilvl, which shows up on your character stats screen.
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  4. #94
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    @OP you're right that people don't ask in shouts for a minimum gear requirement but they do ask in other ways. None of the top shells would take someone as a member if all they had was AF. So in that way it's not really going to change anything. In another sense it's a way to measure someone's progress in the game. I agree with you though that it isn't a positive thing.
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    Maybe only you can see your gearscore...
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  6. #96
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    This is the first time I have heard of "Gear Score" as opposed to just making sure everyone is at stat cap. I find the idea interesting as it will expedite the process of finding suitable players in which to do runs with. While I admit stats play a major role in damage output. Nothing can ever replace player skill. I'll accept Gear Score. Even if I didn't, it would be foolish not to understand why it exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    ガンブレード!吉田も欲しいです!
    うん、銃は夢があるし、ガンブレードもFFらしいですよね

  7. #97
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    Klaus Volfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    Gear score has always been a really shitty idea, and it's a shame Square rolled with it because other big name MMO's use it

    Gear score completely trivializes the whole fucking community and role playing aspect of the genre. You stop looking at people as individuals with preferences, habits, personality, and skill level, and instead zero in on the fucking label
    This basically. You'll just become numbers.
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  8. #98
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocko View Post
    Gear score completely trivializes the whole fucking community and role playing aspect of the genre. You stop looking at people as individuals with preferences, habits, personality, and skill level
    The "community" is still trivialized regardless of whether gearscore is there or not. As is RP.

    Stuff like appearance tabs/vanity slots/transmogrification support RP. Hell, it also supports player individuality because we're choosing our own look.

    Preferences only work when everyone performs at the same level, which some here seem to be adverse to. Yes, to get people to respect your playing a MNK, you and BLM and RNG and DRG and all the damage dealers have to be for the most part interchangable. Same thing with tanks, and same thing with healers.

    So if you want player individuality and RP, do all of us a favor and support transmog/vanity slots/appearance tabs. If you want preferences and personality of the player to be respected, then ask the devs to ensure that the jobs all perform comparably to each other and ensure raid design doesn't favor melee or range for every fight. Don't blame that on gear score, because it has NOTHING to do with those issues.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  9. #99
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    Risae Nyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volfield View Post
    This basically. You'll just become numbers.
    And this is bad, why?
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    Maelina Sylfei
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    Gear score or not, it won't change the fact that I won't refer to it anyway.
    In my opinion it's only an elitist tool and the harder for them to exercise their "elistism" on me, the better.
    I'm a casual player, I can afford the best gear simply because of the stupid random drops. I don't want to be penalized because of that.

    If gear score is used only for the player to recognize better gear and can't be viewed by others, sure, why not. I still won't use it anyway (I'm not that dumb that I can't figure out what is best for my play style).
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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