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    Final Fantasy XIV Version 1 Alpha Footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRiu49mOKFI
    Final Fantasy XIV Version 2 Pre-Alpha Footage: http://youtu.be/Pwenut2xit8?t=11m13s

    BOY THIS GAME SURE DOES LOOK AWFUL IN THE NEW TRAILERS! WAH WAH WAH WORST ANIMATIONS EVER!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    WAH WAH WAH fallacy WAH WAH WAH fallacy WAH WAH WAH
    Please leave.

    We're trying to have a constructive discussion here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Please leave.

    We're trying to have a constructive discussion here.
    Plugging your ears and ignoring everyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't constitute as a "discussion."
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Plugging your ears and ignoring everyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't constitute as a "discussion."
    Posting a "OH LOOK it's THIS thread again" pic followed by an amazingly fallacious reply in full caps including the word "WAH" in repetition doesn't constitute as "a counter-argument i need not to ignore in order for this discussion to be constructive"

    Here, let me show you what a constructive counter-argument that i can't ignore looks like :


    Quote Originally Posted by Trotsky View Post
    Pretty sure it's intentional. Current animations are pleasant to look at, yes, but they don't allow quick maneuvers like strafing, which are necessary for PvP encounters. I assume this is the reason they've decided to make animations more WoW-like.
    FFXIV, as XI, were, and always intended to be PVE games. PVP was just a nice addition. The majority of their target group focuses on PVE, and in my opinion, ruining one of the best aspects of the game just because it's not convenient for PVP is one of the biggest mistakes they're going to make if this is indeed intentional.

    I enjoyed Ballista too, but if i wanted to play a PVP game i would certainly not play XI or XIV.

    You don't take steps back on fundamental aspects such as animation to allow something that most of your target group originally didn't asked for, and if you do, at least be serious about it and REALLY incorporate PVP into the game, make open world PVP servers available etc..

    Thank you for your constructive criticism on my thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Posting a "OH LOOK it's THIS thread again" pic followed by an amazingly fallacious reply in full caps including the word "WAH" in repetition doesn't constitute as "a counter-argument i need not to ignore in order for this discussion to be constructive"

    Here, let me show you what a constructive counter-argument that i can't ignore looks like :




    FFXIV, as XI, were, and always intended to be PVE games. PVP was just a nice addition. The majority of their target group focuses on PVE, and in my opinion, ruining one of the best aspects of the game just because it's not convenient for PVP is one of the biggest mistakes they're going to make if this is indeed intentional.

    I enjoyed Ballista too, but if i wanted to play a PVP game i would certainly not play XI or XIV.

    You don't take steps back on fundamental aspects such as animation to allow something that most of your target group originally didn't asked for, and if you do, at least be serious about it and REALLY incorporate PVP into the game, make open world PVP servers available etc..

    Thank you for your constructive criticism on my thread.
    I highly doubt ppl wont buy a game cause of it not having realistic movements honestly this thread.....

    Maybe FFXIV 1.0 was not built for PVP but 2.0 is and you don't need open world to have good PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I highly doubt ppl wont buy a game cause of it not having realistic movements honestly this thread.....
    Trust me, there are people that value animation, and it really makes a huge difference in how they perceive gameplay.

    If what you said was a fact, why do you think game developers even bother with creating high quality animations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Trust me, there are people that value animation, and it really makes a huge difference in how they perceive gameplay.

    If what you said was a fact, why do you think game developers even bother with creating high quality animations?
    I found it ironic considering the whole last and current generation of gaming pretty much banked purely on graphics alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemy View Post
    Trust me, there are people that value animation, and it really makes a huge difference in how they perceive gameplay.

    If what you said was a fact, why do you think game developers even bother with creating high quality animations?
    FFXIV's current animation is one of the few things I want carried over into ARR. And I mean few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Final Fantasy XIV Version 1 Alpha Footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRiu49mOKFI
    Final Fantasy XIV Version 2 Pre-Alpha Footage: http://youtu.be/Pwenut2xit8?t=11m13s
    I see what the OP is talking about in these trailers.

    Personally, I'm not worried.

    Easing/blending animations is a near requirement of current & next gen games. Once the underlying core systems are tuned up and in place, they will add those finishing touches.

    BTW Have you seen the trailer for MGS:Ground Zeros? Awesome gameplay animation in there. Snake's walking-to-crawling movement (@10:00) is just flawless.
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