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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    3) We're paying, they're accepting feedback.
    2 & 1) You dont need to do or see something to have concern/opinion for it.

    I disprove of murder, I have neither done or seen it.


    This isn't the time to moderate opinions like this one (never is the time), do that for things already solved or illogical *- then its wasting space and SE time trying to sift through it's players opinions.

    *Afraid to put illogical as that could be easily abused... But wanting seamless and immersive animations (to this extent) is not illogical, and wanting to make sure it hasn't been removed cross engines is also a fine concern.
    Exactly. I like logic so thank you for that. There are a lot of opinions being thrown out, some worth implementing, some not. I believe this to be of a real concern. If they decide not to do anything about it then so be it. But if I am given the opportunity to notice something missing from my favorite MMO reincarnation, then you better believe I'm gonna speak up. Missing animation isn't a gamebreaker for most of us... but the lack thereof is a disappointment to fans that were proud to have it as something unique to the MMO they chose to play. I, for one, would terribly miss simply running around and appreciating a bit of visual eye candy with my character and fellow mates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    2 & 1) You dont need to do or see something to have concern/opinion for it.
    No, but you shouldn't get angry if that opinion is openly dismissed either.

    I'm looking forward to playing the game before I make any solid opinions. At this point, I could form an opinion on how loud the trains are. Doesn't mean it matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    Nitpicking pre-alpha footage is pointless for the following reasons:

    1) You haven't seen it yet
    2) You haven't played it yet
    3) They're not accepting your feedback yet.

    See my first post. Why don't you join alpha and find out whether or not you care?
    Your right the gamescon 2012 footage is indeed Pre-Alpha, the footage in the video below is also Pre-Alpha but its from Gamescon 2009 and one of the first ffxiv gameplay footage released; differences is, animation is included in the original version of Pre-Aplha footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3wr...feature=relmfu

    The fact of the matter, in the ARR footage the animation is excluded and no one but SE knows why, assuming it will be added in later is a mistake. You don't know if it will or if it was cut out completely, as others have stated already, putting it off is a bad idea, we can only make assumptions based on the information we have now. Less then 2 months away before 1.0 servers go down and we still hardly have any information.

    What makes u think they are not taking feedback already? if i remember right, Dev posts usually end with them asking us to continuing discussing issues and features we would like to see. Doubt their referring to the current version of the game which has no more big patches left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Your right the gamescon 2012 footage is indeed Pre-Alpha, the footage in the video below is also Pre-Alpha but its from Gamescon 2009 and one of the first ffxiv gameplay footage released; differences is, animation is included in the original version of Pre-Aplha footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3wr...feature=relmfu

    The fact of the matter, in the ARR footage the animation is excluded and no one but SE knows why, assuming it will be added in later is a mistake. You don't know if it will or if it was cut out completely, as others have stated already, putting it off is a bad idea, we can only make assumptions based on the information we have now. Less then 2 months away before 1.0 servers go down and we still hardly have any information.

    What makes u think they are not taking feedback already? if i remember right, Dev posts usually end with them asking us to continuing discussing issues and features we would like to see. Doubt their referring to the current version of the game which has no more big patches left.
    did you just think what i was thinking XD we both posted the same video at the same time /fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raubahn View Post
    did you just think what i was thinking XD we both posted the same video at the same time /fun
    It's because logic is finally setting in on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raubahn View Post
    did you just think what i was thinking XD we both posted the same video at the same time /fun
    ^^, the pre-alpha excuse made me think of that video, i remember how amazed i was 3 years ago when i saw the level of quality in the animation even though it was still pre-alpha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025 View Post
    I think that at least a response from the devs confirming whether or not it is or isn't excluded (along with reasons why) is all that is warranted. And if enough of the community cares, would it be possible to add it back in during official alpha/beta periods?
    Realistically speaking, i think chance of it getting added in beta is low, beta versions are usually near completion and were talking about some of the basic features here, such as animation during moving and stuff. While im not a professional in the field, i would assume its hard to make such changes to a near complete game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Realistically speaking, i think chance of it getting added in beta is low, beta versions are usually near completion and were talking about some of the basic features here, such as animation during moving and stuff. While im not a professional in the field, i would assume its hard to make such changes to a near complete game.
    Then the window is small if they are going to add it back in at this point. My only hope is that they were so human that they simply forgot to turn on the physics option in settings; or even opted to keep it off for some odd reason. Either way, it will obviously be a great game, but sorely missed in the animation quality department. An explanation from one of the devs would still be welcome as I'm curious as to why it would be subtracted from a game of such high-caliber graphics if it comes to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Your right the gamescon 2012 footage is indeed Pre-Alpha, the footage in the video below is also Pre-Alpha but its from Gamescon 2009 and one of the first ffxiv gameplay footage released; differences is, animation is included in the original version of Pre-Aplha footage.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu3wr...feature=relmfu

    The fact of the matter, in the ARR footage the animation is excluded and no one but SE knows why, assuming it will be added in later is a mistake. You don't know if it will or if it was cut out completely, as others have stated already, putting it off is a bad idea, we can only make assumptions based on the information we have now. Less then 2 months away before 1.0 servers go down and we still hardly have any information.

    What makes u think they are not taking feedback already? if i remember right, Dev posts usually end with them asking us to continuing discussing issues and features we would like to see. Doubt their referring to the current version of the game which has no more big patches left.
    I think that at least a response from the devs confirming whether or not it is or isn't excluded (along with reasons why) is all that is warranted. And if enough of the community cares, would it be possible to add it back in during official alpha/beta periods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    The fact of the matter, in the ARR footage the animation is excluded and no one but SE knows why, assuming it will be added in later is a mistake. You don't know if it will or if it was cut out completely, as others have stated already, putting it off is a bad idea, we can only make assumptions based on the information we have now. Less then 2 months away before 1.0 servers go down and we still hardly have any information.

    What makes u think they are not taking feedback already? if i remember right, Dev posts usually end with them asking us to continuing discussing issues and features we would like to see. Doubt their referring to the current version of the game which has no more big patches left.
    I was referring to Alpha when I said they weren't accepting feedback yet. I don't have enough information to form an opinion yet with movement quality. Unless I have a controller in my hands, I'm just not willing to make any judgements about it.

    However, I will judge based on the rampant trolling about graphical quality based on second-hand footage off gamescom that people who are complaining about it are probably just complaining for the heck of it.

    Grass post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HiirNoivl View Post
    I was referring to Alpha when I said they weren't accepting feedback yet. I don't have enough information to form an opinion yet with movement quality. Unless I have a controller in my hands, I'm just not willing to make any judgements about it.

    However, I will judge based on the rampant trolling about graphical quality based on second-hand footage off gamescom that people who are complaining about it are probably just complaining for the heck of it.

    Grass post.
    Now that we've become friends, the only complainer here is you. Complaining about the complainers. I have three words for you... ready?

    OPEN. YOUR. EYES.
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