PLD Gear?

[GreyJorildyn]

IMO you can't recommend DL or HDL gear, because it can't be bought and the drop rate is atrocious. Not everyone has the time to dedicate to farming DL or HDL. For most of us that gear is something we'll get if we're lucky, it's not an inevitability. It might be, if we all had 18 hours a day to dedicate to farming it, but that's not the case. Until something changes with the drop rate, any discussion about gear, is a conversation about how to gear your char sans DL and HDL.

Incorrect. When you have discussions about gear, you put them in order of best to worse in terms of situations. You cannot simply decide to discount gear because YOU cannot personally attain it. With your logic, you would have to also leave out gear people cannot afford because of materia prices or whatever. That is just totally ridiculous.

[SwordCoheir]

Of course one could argue that in the terms of the inexperienced and newer player such things like HDL and Garuda weapons would be completely out of the question, but in either case all options should be mentioned rather than the best or most available.

[MoarLegion]

This thread is gold. Regardless, the only thing I have to add is the recommendation of the Militia gorget. The few who posted the raw stats and know what's up. I salute you. You know who you are.

With regards to the Militia Gorget, I am of the opinion that it is a tad bit overrated. I had one and tried it out in various situations but ending up selling it. The reason being that I prefer the +15 accuracy and crit hit + the explorer's offers or even the attack the electrum +1 offers. This is personal preference of course but I prefer to hit hard and hit accurately, doubly so on Warrior. Even with 2 minute Miser kills, the militia gorget didn't make or break the fight with regards to Miser turning.

Enmity is an important stat and that 3% may raise the parties DPS ceiling a wee bit, but for me I just simply prefer what the explorer's or the electrum offers. Again, this is personal preference. I look at each battle differently and gear accordingly. But I have never yet encountered a situation where the militia gorget made or broke any of our runs. So basically if you need some enmity help, get it but if you don't notice too much of a difference, sell it and enjoy your 10-15 million.

The militia gorget is probably one of the best neck pieces you can get if somehow you can get your str/mnd/acc caps and not have to worry about getting one of those stats through another piece of jewelery. However, I'm pretty sure that's only feasible with triple melded+ gear, if at all.

That said, I actually use the Militia Gorget specifically for hamlet before the NM pops. With every piece of enmity available to me I can pull shit off the crafter/gatherer's with one voke and flash.

[Molly_Millions]

Incorrect. When you have discussions about gear, you put them in order of best to worse in terms of situations. You cannot simply decide to discount gear because YOU cannot personally attain it. With your logic, you would have to also leave out gear people cannot afford because of materia prices or whatever. That is just totally ridiculous.

It's not that I can't obtain it, its that you either have to be really lucky or do nothing but AV/CC for weeks or months on end to be guaranteed to get it. My point is, we all know it's the best armor. That being the case, this thread should have ended at the second post and that post should have said got get dark light gear, because that's all there is. Being that the driop rate is so horrendous we need to know what's best, without darklight gear.

[Molly_Millions]

Of course one could argue that in the terms of the inexperienced and newer player such things like HDL and Garuda weapons would be completely out of the question, but in either case all options should be mentioned rather than the best or most available.

It's the same thing in the weapons threads, Garuda weapons are the best, but you don't see people say hey go get a garuda weapon, as if they drop from the sky. (Well they sorta do, but that's not the point.) No, people reccommend the LT weapons first because they are easier to obtain. We all know that prior to a relic, a garuda weapon is the best thing there is, but you can't exactly just get into a simple pug group and go get one.

[Brannigan]

Well Garuda's Gaze ain't all that great compared to the Maelstrom/Adders weapons (or even Mogblade, really). The others are mostly fine. Besides that, Garuda weapons are some of the only drops in the game you can ACTUALLY count on. She always drops 2 tokens on a quick win (which you'll most likely get since long Garuda is usually a wipe) and isn't really all that tough to kill.

Really I don't think suggesting drops is that unreasonable. Pickup groups are more than capable of Garuda as long as they aren't the kind of guys who wipe to stuff like skirmish.

[Judge_Xero]

Ideally, the gear set I want to have someday is: With all my points in STR and MND (228 and 234)
Curtana + Holy Shield
HQ Cobalt Celata (51 MND)
Darklight Cuirass
Darklight Gauntlets
Darklight Sollerets
HQ Felt Trousers (25 STR/27 VIT)
HQ Cobalt Plate Belt (120 HP)
Explorers Choker
2 X HQ Rubelite Rings
White Ravens
HQ Raptorskin Bracelet

(I could also use the Storm Earring, Belt and Bracelet for a bit more attack and Str (3 piece bonus)


***Edited for Stats:

DL Gear (no storm bonus) - STR 323, VIT 321, MND 287, **ATK 557
DL Gear (storm bonus) - STR 330, VIT 322, MND 287, **ATK 564

Food for Accuracy or extra ATK/STR Smoked Raptor, Tuna Mac'bob

Darklight Gauntlets can be swapped for 40+ STR Gloves, but the VIT is nice, and 50 ATK is decent.
(If I ever get a pair of 50+ STR Gauntlets they will be going on, but the Darklight sill gets more badassery points)

The stat Caps on Curtana is around STR 368 - MND 320 (Low DPS value @ 41.03)

[Brannigan]

Wouldn't that leave you with only like 314 str? Curtana's got to cap higher than that. You've got other triples on there, might as well go for triple Str gauntlets over Darklight. Hell, if you wanted to keep your belt you could use the Maelstrom Shield/Earring/Bracelet. You'd probably have to switch out those Rubelite for Electrum on some fights (like Curtana/2xHQ Electrum/Militia gets me only ~95% accuracy on Nael/Ifrit, would be lower on Garuda) so having more str options would be good if that's your focus.

[SwordCoheir]

Wouldn't that leave you with only like 314 str? Curtana's got to cap higher than that. You've got other triples on there, might as well go for triple Str gauntlets over Darklight. Hell, if you wanted to keep your belt you could use the Maelstrom Shield/Earring/Bracelet. You'd probably have to switch out those Rubelite for Electrum on some fights (like Curtana/2xHQ Electrum/Militia gets me only ~95% accuracy on Nael/Ifrit, would be lower on Garuda) so having more str options would be good if that's your focus.

I'd have to agree there, I think there was an ongoing discussion on the MNK forums that the caps for Relic are roughly 380/330 so you have to really push it to make the caps.

But on the other hand if he insists on using the DL gauntlets, rather than swapping out his HQ STR rings he could also swap to the Lominsan Officers Gloves which give +50 Acc with Sanction so he'd at least get the better of both worlds.

[Chadwick]

this thread should have ended at the second post

tru dat