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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    Why should you farm a low lv instance as a highlevel player anyways?
    really Mostly NO ONE is interested.

    And i dont enjoy to help players with my lv 50 char for a low level dungeon. the "newbie" receives no exp while clearing it, nor he has any gaming experience "Killing ifrit in 5 secs"

    seriously (for me) its more interesting to experience again old content stuff, although i dont have any low level class in that range anymore.

    I would want to go in a dungeon (let's say Toto-rak) with a Lv50 class cause I might want to farm equipment for a lower level class I have. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so.

    Why should I be able to go and one-shot a NM in the open world and get a lower level weapon for a class I wish to level, and not quickly run through a dungeon in order to do the same.

    As I said forcing LV-Sync is OK in some situations (Ifrit-weak, maybe storyline quests) but not in repeatable content like dungeons...

    ...if they force lv-sync in dungeons, then they should force lv-sync also in the open field.... "wanna fight a Lv10 coblyn?. well, you will be scaled to a lv10 character".


    On the other hand, if they let us choose to lv-sync or not, people like yourself (and myself also) with all classes at 50 will be free to go in a dungeon enjoying a challenging experience as a lv25 character or to just stay lv50 and speed through it for farming purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    I would want to go in a dungeon (let's say Toto-rak) with a Lv50 class cause I might want to farm equipment for a lower level class I have. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so.

    Why should I be able to go and one-shot a NM in the open world and get a lower level weapon for a class I wish to level, and not quickly run through a dungeon in order to do the same.

    As I said forcing LV-Sync is OK in some situations (Ifrit-weak, maybe storyline quests) but not in repeatable content like dungeons...

    ...if they force lv-sync in dungeons, then they should force lv-sync also in the open field.... "wanna fight a Lv10 coblyn?. well, you will be scaled to a lv10 character".


    On the other hand, if they let us choose to lv-sync or not, people like yourself (and myself also) with all classes at 50 will be free to go in a dungeon enjoying a challenging experience as a lv25 character or to just stay lv50 and speed through it for farming purposes.
    And power levelling will still exist :[
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    I've helped MANY people with the toto-rak quest as L50 just so they can move on with the story and then go back with others at the same level to farm seals or gear. I would not have done that if I was scaled down to low level and it took much longer and potentially killed me. If anything, it is MORE important that level-sync is optional for quests that can stop your progression so new players aren't blocked from moving ahead when there is not a large constant inflow of new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    I would want to go in a dungeon (let's say Toto-rak) with a Lv50 class cause I might want to farm equipment for a lower level class I have. I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do so.
    ah come on you seriously farming equipment for your lv 25 character which is lv 35 in 1-5 days? ;XD besides farming low level mobs for which purpose ever.. is just lame ^

    its way often more the case, that lowbe players are seeking players to complete the instanced dungeons (not getting rushed through it btw. because it makes no fun)

    i think its a good decision by SE. because low level dungeons are almost dead. i ever say to my ls members (sorry i dont have a char in that range)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    ah come on you seriously farming equipment for your lv 25 character which is lv 35 in 1-5 days? ;XD besides farming low level mobs for which purpose ever.. is just lame ^

    its way often more the case, that lowbe players are seeking players to complete the instanced dungeons (not getting rushed through it btw. because it makes no fun)

    i think its a good decision by SE. because low level dungeons are almost dead. i ever say to my ls members (sorry i dont have a char in that range)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cynthis View Post
    I've helped MANY people with the toto-rak quest as L50 just so they can move on with the story and then go back with others at the same level to farm seals or gear. I would not have done that if I was scaled down to low level and it took much longer and potentially killed me. If anything, it is MORE important that level-sync is optional for quests that can stop your progression so new players aren't blocked from moving ahead when there is not a large constant inflow of new players.
    seriously is it just all about "moving ahead" or having fun? i disagree with you.

    im not going into toto-rak because i dont have an appropriate character. i dont think that newbies want to get PL'd or rushing through content they have'nt experienced yet. or has someone rushed you through toto-rak? they just have to complete it once and not once per class.

    and besides that you do not know if instanced dungeons will be part of story in FF14.. or if it will be just part of normal quests.


    /sorry for double post -.-
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 09-04-2012 at 06:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    seriously is it just all about "moving ahead" or having fun? i disagree with you.

    im not going into toto-rak because i dont have an appropriate character. i dont think that newbies want to get PL'd or rushing through content they have'nt experienced yet. or has someone rushed you through toto-rak? they just have to complete it once and not once per class.

    and besides that you do not know if instanced dungeons will be part of story in FF14.. or if it will be just part of normal quests.


    /sorry for double post -.-
    Ok I checked your pad. Unless you have another character or you pad is bugged, you have just 3 classes at 50; you should have plenty of chances to enjoy toto-rak anyway.

    AND.... you never even tried a single DoH.... so you don't know that farming on lower level mobs can help you save gil when grinding.
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    When people have spent 3-4 days shouting in Uldah with no response, it's all about moving ahead at that point. Any fun is overwhelmingly replaced with relief. Besides, like I said, they can always go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    ah come on you seriously farming equipment for your lv 25 character which is lv 35 in 1-5 days? ;XD besides farming low level mobs for which purpose ever.. is just lame ^

    its way often more the case, that lowbe players are seeking players to complete the instanced dungeons (not getting rushed through it btw. because it makes no fun)

    i think its a good decision by SE. because low level dungeons are almost dead. i ever say to my ls members (sorry i dont have a char in that range)
    I leveled all classes to 50 using shopshae and toto-rak equipment mainly and NM weapons. I don't see why it should be lame. Consider I took all classes to 50 doing solo leves (a part from 1st class I maxed, which I did with exp parties); it is not so fast doing so, as it is doing exp parties.

    ....I really don't see why you are against having the OPTION of using Lv-Sync OR not.... not saying I am against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    ....I really don't see why you are against having the OPTION of using Lv-Sync OR not.... not saying I am against it.
    its like giving the option to PL someone. and giving people options will lead them to do the easiest way in the end.. which will be "ah well i'll rush you through and shut up". like giving people the options to skip all story cutscenes, in the end they all skip those scenes.

    and giving the option to PL newbies instead they level on their own .
    no one PL'd me either when i was a newbie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guevara View Post
    Ok I checked your pad. Unless you have another character or you pad is bugged, you have just 3 classes at 50; you should have plenty of chances to enjoy toto-rak anyway.

    .
    ouh thats the people i like the most ouuh "i checked your pad".... ^^

    im saving those other classes for 2.0. because i dont want to make a twink. and on the other hand i want these 3 jobs to be my main jobs/classes. if i would have all leveled to 50 i would have also been ask for playing WAR or whatever, which i dont enjoy at all. thats the point.

    not everybody has the aim of having all classes at 50. like in other MMorpgs not everyone wants to play every class, you know.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 09-04-2012 at 06:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    its like giving the option to PL someone. and giving people options will lead them to do the easiest way in the end.. which will be "ah well i'll rush you through and shut up". like giving people the options to skip all story cutscenes, in the end they all skip those scenes.
    Then, maybe, they could force lv-sync if in your party there's someone who has not cleared the dungeon; that could be a solution to your issue.
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