Seems like alot of people want this game to become Free 2 Play. >.>

[Mijin]

Are you retarded?

No, actually, and in addition to that I obviously have more knowledge on the subject than you.

In pay to play games you are constantly dropping money on such things as:

Unlocking classes, exp potions, health potions, mp potions, content passes, character slots, good gear, inventory space, mounts, cosmetic items, and many other items that may or many not give you an edge over the other players.

Long story short, in so called "free" to play games you end up paying more unless you are the most casual of casual players, and that's why many people facetiously dub "Free to play," "Pay to win."

I realize that you are probably under 18 and it's hard for you to get your mom to cough up the $10.00 a month to pay for your bad habit, so I suggest collecting pop cans and maybe cutting your neighbors lawn. $10.00 really isn't hard to come up with once every 4 weeks lazy bones.

[Ingolf]

No, actually, and in addition to that I obviously have more knowledge on the subject than you.

In pay to play games you are constantly dropping money on such things as:

Unlocking classes, exp potions, health potions, mp potions, content passes, character slots, good gear, inventory space, mounts, cosmetic items, and many other items that may or many not give you an edge over the other players.

Long story short, in so called "free" to play games you end up paying more unless you are the most casual of casual players, and that's why many people facetiously dub "Free to play," "Pay to win."

I realize that you are probably under 18 and it's hard for you to get your mom to cough up the $10.00 a month to pay for your bad habit, so I suggest collecting pop cans and maybe cutting your neighbors lawn. $10.00 really isn't hard to come up with once every 4 weeks lazy bones.

"Anyone who doesn't like paying money monthly, can't afford it"

Fallacy ahoy!

I'm just clearly better at managing my finances than you. (see how that works)

[Mijin]

"Anyone who doesn't like paying money monthly, can't afford it"

Fallacy ahoy!

I'm just clearly better at managing my finances than you. (see how that works)

Oh, I was also going off the fact that you're going around here calling people "retards." It wasn't only the financial evidence. And no, in lieu of the fact that free to play games are just a marketing scheme invented by games with low subscribers to get them to actually pay more, I don't see how anything you've said could suggest you're better at managing your finances than me. :P

[Ingolf]

Oh, I was also going off the fact that you're going around here calling people "retards." It wasn't only the financial evidence. And no, in lieu of the fact that free to play games are just a marketing scheme invented by games with low subscribers to get them to actually pay more, I don't see how anything you've said could suggest you're better at managing your finances than me. :P

I called you a retard, because you used the generalization that all free to play games are pay to win.

This shows a general lack of understanding in the field and general ignorance.

And yeah, GW2 really has low subs.

[Mijin]

I called you a retard, because you used the generalization that all free to play games are pay to win.

This shows a general lack of understanding in the field and general ignorance.

You're the only one who looks ignorant here, and that's why almost everyone disagrees with you. To anyone with common sense it's obvious that you end up paying more for "free to play" games. Regardless, it's a moot point. It's already been stated in an interview that they won't be using this cheap marketing scheme.

And yeah, GW2 really has low subs.

Oh, I was also going off the fact that you're going around here calling people "retards." It wasn't only the financial evidence. And no, in lieu of the fact that free to play games are just a marketing scheme invented by games with low subscribers to get them to actually pay more, I don't see how anything you've said could suggest you're better at managing your finances than me. :P

Reading comprehension ftw. Also, please remove your giant signature that takes up like half of the thread, thank you.

[Ingolf]

You're the only one who looks ignorant here, and that's why almost everyone disagrees with you. To anyone with common sense it's obvious that you end up paying more for "free to play" games. Regardless, it's a moot point. It's already been stated in an interview that they won't be using this cheap marketing scheme.






Reading comprehension ftw. Also, please remove your giant signature that takes up like half of the thread, thank you.

Give me an example of a pay to win item in GW2.

I'll link you to the gem store here: link

And actually the free to play model was pioneered a long time ago, not by a game with low subs.

[Mijin]

Give me an example of a pay to win item in GW2.

I'll link you to the gem store here: link

And actually the free to play model was pioneered a long time ago, not by a game with low subs.

All the items listed under "Boosts" for example... Quite a lot of them are actually, i'd say more than half the items on that page you linked to represent to pay to win problem.