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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    Since he is an assistant director and not getting Yoshida's job he doesn't exactly have the authority to turn the project into a pile of crap like the initial release.
    I still picture Yoshida putting on the Nabeshin wig and then backhanding people who work under him when they give him bad ideas that would ruin the game.

    For the record, I like Tanaka. I think there were problems with XIV beyond just Tanaka's direction, and some of it was poor executive decision. It was not ready in the slightest to be released. You can't say that Tanaka is good at offline games and bad at MMOs, a game is a game. If an MMO is lacking it's lacking primarily in social structure and that's not what XIV's original problem was.
    Erm...no. Crystal Tools was very unoptimized. This is after the game being in development for what, four years? It lacked content and expected people to want to repeat the same actions over and over again. Class design was considered bland by some. That's not even getting to the map design. A lot of it is technical and development-related. That Wada didn't want to give them more time is on the list as well.

    As far as Tanaka, I respect the man for doing what he did during the SNES and PSX eras. I don't and never will like how he handled things in FFXI. From RDM's ruination to letting Utsusemi tanking live to shoddy job balance to adding and forgetting features multiple times over throughout the life of the game and conditioning the playerbase to be skeptical about anything they ever added because there was always a "but" somewhere in there.

    I loved Secret of Mana and FF6, but one does not undo the other; they're all just part of the same story.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    I still picture Yoshida putting on the Nabeshin wig and then backhanding people who work under him when they give him bad ideas that would ruin the game.
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    This is now my favorite thing, ever.
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    Thal's Balls! These forums are hot enough to melt an ice goddess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    Kudos on the pic. I'm more amazed that people still know who Nabeshin is. >.>
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Kudos on the pic. I'm more amazed that people still know who Nabeshin is. >.>
    I love Excel Saga what can I say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    As far as Tanaka, I respect the man for doing what he did during the SNES and PSX eras. I don't and never will like how he handled things in FFXI. From RDM's ruination to letting Utsusemi tanking live to shoddy job balance to adding and forgetting features multiple times over throughout the life of the game and conditioning the playerbase to be skeptical about anything they ever added because there was always a "but" somewhere in there.
    Lol, I really need to stop posting before reading the whole thread. A lot of you guys blew my knowledge of XIV's first launch out of the water.

    Anyway, Hironobu Sakaguhi left some time after FFXII, and Uematsu left some time around then as well. Tanaka is one of the last big-name FF creators to leave, and Nomura (FFIV onward) is being spread across so many games it almost feels like he barely contributes to each. It's no wonder Versus XIII is taking so damn long.

    Sakaguchi and Uematsu have done some nice games with Mistwalker, and I read Sakaguchi even recruited Amano to work with them. I wonder how well they'd do if Tanaka reunited with them. The Last Story seemed about as close to the old Final Fantasy as you could get nowadays, and without the need for chocobos and crystals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukkirii View Post
    I'll save you Yoshida!

    /casts Raise