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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    That reminded me why I never been to a McDonald's the past10 years.

    Oh that and the employee putting his stinky feet inside the lettuce
    Another putting a boogie inside the meat
    Another rubbing the bread on his crouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz View Post
    Ehh...F2P doesn't bother me it at all, it's actually quite convenient. I get to purchase the game and try it out for a good while, before I start throwing money at it. Now this is where things get hairy for me, the main reason I like a sub model is because I know how much I'm going to spend each month on the game. If I'm instead buying other things like extra chars and paying for special gear and such....I'm simply not interested. I can't stand the games where you have to pay to actually get ahead in the game...

    I could see FFXIV doing a F2P model with freebie access having limited access to content, storage, classes ect. The freebie part serves to get you hooked to the game. Than have a sub option for people who find out that they do like the game!XD
    No. F2p are for millionaires only.

    Am I crazy?

    No

    You get to play for free, but to be able
    To compete with others, you gotta shell thousands of dollars on legendary items every month.

    So , no thanks. We don't need lineage crap style here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    That reminded me why I never been to a McDonald's the past10 years.

    Oh that and the employee putting his stinky feet inside the lettuce
    Another putting a boogie inside the meat
    Another rubbing the bread on his crouch
    Pitty this happens more everywhere else compared to mcdonalds.
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    lol agreed about the only thing I eat at mcdonalds is the chicken nuggets and that's sparingly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antipika View Post
    F2P done right is just as fine as P2P done right. This have nothing to do with users not wanting to spend 2 MCD value meal a month in a product.
    I champion your efforts but you most likely won't convince most vocals on this forums as they are pretty set in their ways and won't change their minds until FFXIV itself adopts a hybrid or freemium model. Never mind that most AAA games these days are operated this way, until a brand new high budget game releases with a model similar to LotrO, Eq2, AoC and so on you are pretty much wasting energy on the debate.

    Just wait in the shadows and one day it'll happen. All online games will offer a subscription and freemium option as well. I wonder if people forget that in AAA mmos that are supposed "F2P", you CAN still pay for the same monthly fee you did before for the same benefits people argue for P2P only. People want to keep their preciousness free of what they view as 'undesirables' and thus make up these so called facts to make themselves feel better about hanging on to their ways. Nothing new.

    It's pretty much just like the 'oh noes jumping will ruin the game!11' No it won't.
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    Last edited by Cendres; 09-02-2012 at 10:17 AM.

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    Rather than asking what F2P is done right, ask how many P2P released after 2006 still stand and generated decent profit (covered DEV cost + upkeep cost)? How many in proportion to F2P games?

    All right, you see the answer. Now try to think as a company having to choose a business model and you will understand why F2P looks appealing. LoL is done right. TF2 is done right. D3 is done right. GW2 is done right. PSO2 is done right.

    Aion F2P was done right too and SWTOR freemium looks good as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    I champion your efforts but you most likely won't convince most vocals on this forums as they are pretty set in their ways and won't change their minds until FFXIV itself adopts a hybrid or freemium model. Never mind that most AAA games these days are operated this way, until a brand new high budget game releases with a model similar to LotrO, Eq2, AoC and so on you are pretty much wasting energy on the debate.

    Just wait in the shadows and one day it'll happen. All online games will offer a subscription and freemium option as well. I wonder if people forget that in AAA mmos that are supposed "F2P", you CAN still pay for the same monthly fee you did before for the same benefits people argue for P2P only. People want to keep their preciousness free of what they view as 'undesirables' and thus make up these so called facts to make themselves feel better about hanging on to their ways. Nothing new.

    It's pretty much just like the 'oh noes jumping will ruin the game!11' No it won't.
    Yeah sadly :/ I'm pretty convinced that freemium will be the standard soon enough anyway.
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    Last edited by Antipika; 09-02-2012 at 10:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Pitty this happens more everywhere else compared to mcdonalds.
    When somewhere else's food bring a steel stomach like mine to its knees I will agree with you.

    Mcdonalds did. Now I know why. Thanks you tube
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    The more people say "no F2P I no play" the better, we don't need people sacrificing their burger money or our precious time interacting with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    No. F2p are for millionaires only.

    Am I crazy?

    No

    You get to play for free, but to be able
    To compete with others, you gotta shell thousands of dollars on legendary items every month.

    So , no thanks. We don't need lineage crap style here.
    Way to half read my post-.-
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    No matter how you slice it F2P MMOs have the Worst Graphics ( even GW2 I saw HD Videos and they seem to have that Generic MMO look). WoW's Cartoony Scenery is better than F2P graphics, and I dislike WoW.
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