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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    Really then how do you explain the Garlean Empire? which was mentioned in my scenario. They use "science and engineering" unlike any of the nations and they experiment on their conquered citizenships. So whats to stop them from capturing some moogles and experimenting on them like they do the other 4 races, and they some how end up mutating them?
    Capturing "some" does not a playable race make. You do not explain the purpose for this. This makes the whole thing sound like it's pulled out of thin air, and not the stuff of good storytelling.

    An example. The miqote of Ala Mihgo are cat girls, but then GARLEAN SCIENCE! They lost their tails in 2.0! And now fight the garleans!

    Sahagin were a bunch of ornery seadogs, now playable because GARLEAN SCIENCE! Changed their colors! Now stalwart defenders of Limsa Lominsa's seas!

    Behemoths not ridable? The GARLEAN SCIENCE came from the north... now with poodle tails. Behemoths can now take their fight to the Empire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Capturing "some" does not a playable race make. You do not explain the purpose for this. This makes the whole thing sound like it's pulled out of thin air, and not the stuff of good storytelling.

    An example. The miqote of Ala Mihgo are cat girls, but then GARLEAN SCIENCE! They lost their rails in 2.0! And now fight the garleans!

    Sahagin were a bunch of ornery seadogs, now playable because GARLEAN SCIENCE! Changed their colors!

    Behemoths not ridable? The GARLEAN SCIENCE came from the north...
    You didn't actually read anything I said did you.... also your forgetting some rather important facts about 2.0... They are 1. Rewriting a lot of the lore, moogles might be one of them, and 2. We are going to be at the end of the 7th umbral era, in the future, an unannounced amount of time has passed since we were sent away. Many things can happen. Maybe we were away for 100 years, and the Garleans enslaved these captured moogles and force breed them over 100 years to the extent of a mass population of them.

    All I was doing was hypothesising a way they can make it fit into the story for us current players on how they could possibly introduce Moogles as a race, of course I am not saying it is fact. I am just saying how it could happen. Also in all honest I think at least 100 or more years have passed since the meteor even that will happen to us at the end of 1.0 to 2.0 because you can see the destroyed old big trees scattered around and uprooted, but there are younger newer trees growing which would take sometime after a hellfire from the skys burn them down.

    Again we won't know till either the info is released.... or 2.0 is released. I am just wanting to express my favor for a Moogle PC race and how from the lore I picked up in the game how it could occur, with the info given to us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xmbei View Post
    You didn't actually read anything I said did you.... also your forgetting some rather important facts about 2.0... They are 1. Rewriting a lot of the lore, moogles might be one of them, and 2. We are going to be at the end of the 7th umbral era, in the future, an unannounced amount of time has passed since we were sent away. Many things can happen. Maybe we were away for 100 years, and the Garleans enslaved these captured moogles and force breed them over 100 years to the extent of a mass population of them.

    All I was doing was hypothesising a way they can make it fit into the story for us current players on how they could possibly introduce Moogles as a race, of course I am not saying it is fact. I am just saying how it could happen. Also in all honest I think at least 100 or more years have passed since the meteor even that will happen to us at the end of 1.0 to 2.0 because you can see the destroyed old big trees scattered around and uprooted, but there are younger newer trees growing which would take sometime after a hellfire from the skys burn them down.

    Again we won't know till either the info is released.... or 2.0 is released. I am just wanting to express my favor for a Moogle PC race and how from the lore I picked up in the game how it could occur, with the info given to us.
    I think this is bad idea, and that you are not justifying it properly with saying on one hand you're "using the lore" you picked up from the game, then claim SE is "rewriting the lore" when you are called on making completely different creatures and still calling them ffxiv's version of moogles. Garlean science is not some magical plot beast to rewrite already existing elements in the Eorzean setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I think this is bad idea, and that you are not justifying it properly with saying on one hand you're "using the lore" you picked up from the game, then claim SE is "rewriting the lore" when you are called on making completely different creatures and still calling them ffxiv's version of moogles. Garlean science is not some magical plot beast to rewrite already existing elements in the Eorzean setting.
    Actually it is or else the Garleans wouldn't be calling down meteor to destroy us. That was rewritten because they needed an excuse to destroy the 1.0 world. So yes Garlean's because we know so little about them, truly, are a huge plot beast that they can use for anything (in a bare bones story that we got at 1.0 release) that that is exactly what Yoshi-P has been using them as for the past 2 years.
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