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    Renen Angel
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    This is why I say its silly to compare at all. White Mage was a standalone job in XI, while its a branch-off from Conjurer in XIV. So yes, duh WHM wont have as many skills in this game because MOST of them (currently) come from the conjurer class. What was WHM in XI is Conj+WHM in XIV. And though he said I was offended I really wasn't, just being blunt about the subject. Its fruitless and silly to compare the two games ever. As I said, Final Fantasy titles have always taken very different approaches from each other. WHM in XIV does not have the same "meaning". If you must compare WHM from XIV to anything else, you'd have to include cnj as part of it otherwise its not even close to a fair comparison.

    In terms of "unique" skills, I would say that its less about that and more about the mechanics. Anyone with a brain knows playing thm is a lot different than playing blm, that playing cnj is a lot different than playing whm, and that playing arc is way different than playing bard. It may only be a few additional skills, but those few skills essentially change the mechanics entirely. That is what the armory/job system is about. But if we had stopped using XI was a base of comparison, we would all see that. Case in point you used two THMs to replace a cnj/whm. But I guarantee you they had to play entirely different than a cnj because their access to certain resources are different.

    Its not the skills thats the problem, its the way ppl play. Is it SE's fault that everyone played cnj like a WHM? No! Is it SE's fault that thms insisted on playing like BLM's? No! But why did they do this? Because of XI. Yet once you really look at it, mechanically THM is nothing like BLM, Cnj is nothing like WHM, so there was always uniqueness staring us in the face but we refused to see it.
    But even then, the amount of skills that I actually use in a party is so low...
    Here are just some skills that WHM can use (it just so happens FF11 whm have them, but thats not the point):
    Bar-element
    Shell
    Reraise
    Dia (or any low-tier single target white magic)
    In reality, in a singe fight WHM/CNJ use only 1/3 of all the spells they get. 11 (14 for WHM)
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    Hena Rhiki
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    Arcanist Lv 19
    Quote Originally Posted by Renen View Post
    But even then, the amount of skills that I actually use in a party is so low...
    Here are just some skills that WHM can use (it just so happens FF11 whm have them, but thats not the point):
    Bar-element
    Shell
    Reraise
    Dia (or any low-tier single target white magic)
    In reality, in a singe fight WHM/CNJ use only 1/3 of all the spells they get. 11 (14 for WHM)
    You know I posted my concerns about this. I've been a healer for the past 10 years. Little worried with looking at the list of what whm could do. I would like more abilities in my arsenal. However! It got me thinking...I mean cap level is only at 50 right now. I would imagine that 2.0 is going to tweak/add abilities. After Yoshida increases the level cap, all classes/jobs will have more depth to them.
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