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    Why things take so long? Typically in a larger company you have a number of checks and balances and a certain amount of inertia to overcome.

    1. Someone has a proposal
    2. It gets critiqued
    3. It eventually gets approved or not
    4. Someone works on the design
    5. The design gets critiqued
    6. The design gets approved
    7. Someone starts coding
    8. If there is a snag in coding it has to be worked around.
    9. As it is coded, people are asked if this is a good design or works (if you are a good company, you do hallway usability testing)
    10. The coding is finished and sent to QA.
    11. QA tests it, makes comments, submits bugs, and if you've got a good company, suggests changes.
    12. It goes back to coding and design perhaps.
    13. The fixes/changes are done and retested.
    14. Do this until QA is happy or someone tells them to shut up.
    15. The update happens.

    It's a long process. Sometimes you've got multiple departments working together. Sometimes the coding breaks something else. Sometimes the code doesn't have any comments and you are forced to put together what's going on. Sometimes you are in the middle of one thing and something more important gets dropped on your desk.
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    No one expects the miquote inquisition!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winterclaw View Post
    Why things take so long? Typically in a larger company you have a number of checks and balances and a certain amount of inertia to overcome.

    1. Someone has a proposal
    2. It gets critiqued
    3. It eventually gets approved or not
    4. Someone works on the design
    5. The design gets critiqued
    6. The design gets approved
    7. Someone starts coding
    8. If there is a snag in coding it has to be worked around.
    9. As it is coded, people are asked if this is a good design or works (if you are a good company, you do hallway usability testing)
    10. The coding is finished and sent to QA.
    11. QA tests it, makes comments, submits bugs, and if you've got a good company, suggests changes.
    12. It goes back to coding and design perhaps.
    13. The fixes/changes are done and retested.
    14. Do this until QA is happy or someone tells them to shut up.
    15. The update happens.

    It's a long process. Sometimes you've got multiple departments working together. Sometimes the coding breaks something else. Sometimes the code doesn't have any comments and you are forced to put together what's going on. Sometimes you are in the middle of one thing and something more important gets dropped on your desk.
    This is Correct.

    I work for a Healthcare EMR company. We have a massive Program already designed/built/and in production for the last two years, but the vender has proven to be unable to maintain the level of development we need.

    We've instigated taking on a new vender to design us a new UI for our whole database.

    Its been approximately a year and a half since we first contacted them and as far as I've been informed they haven't even started coding the new UI. Its been all up contract negotiations and designing and "Drawing" the UI so we know what it might look like.

    We are not even expecting the Basic model to be functional for another year. Then the full functional model to be ready in 3 years.

    And all it is, is a UI that lets you keep records of Doctor Patient Visits and the effects of wound management on a wound over time.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    This is Correct.

    I work for a Healthcare EMR company. We have a massive Program already designed/built/and in production for the last two years, but the vender has proven to be unable to maintain the level of development we need.

    We've instigated taking on a new vender to design us a new UI for our whole database.

    Its been approximately a year and a half since we first contacted them and as far as I've been informed they haven't even started coding the new UI. Its been all up contract negotiations and designing and "Drawing" the UI so we know what it might look like.

    We are not even expecting the Basic model to be functional for another year. Then the full functional model to be ready in 3 years.

    And all it is, is a UI that lets you keep records of Doctor Patient Visits and the effects of wound management on a wound over time.
    Dang. FFXIV's fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BelgianRofl View Post
    Dang. FFXIV's fucked.
    consequences will never be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moth View Post
    consequences will never be the same.
    Ya dun goof'd.
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    I guess that we can stop... uh... "beating a dead horse" and simply wait them for an update.
    And drop that "waiting painfully" since there's always something to do while waiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renshi View Post
    I guess that we can stop... uh... "beating a dead horse" and simply wait them for an update.
    And drop that "waiting painfully" since there's always something to do while waiting.
    April 19th, a lot of us are finding a new horse. The choice is Yoshi-P's.
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