Very limited content at ARR launch :( ?

[darkstarpoet1]

the forums remind me of beta and original release.

alpha: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for beta"
beta: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for release"
release: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for next golden patch"
golden patch fail: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for 2.0"

we are on track for
2.0 release: this is broke and needs to be fixed "wait for next patch"

[Gokulo]

What's broken though?
In this topic people are complaining that the content that wasn't planned for release (important part here) won't be there for release, therefore the game will have basically no end game content. I think that's a twisted way of thinking, and it's a little too early to judge such stuff. In reality, we still don't know how much will be there.

[Jennestia]

Gokulo has a point -- The only issue present here are people complaining about the Lack of PvP and Crystal Tower at launch means limited to no content at launch. That logic doesn't work when the people they're trying to get to play the game won't have completed said content prior to ARR, they would be doing everything the first time and given the amount of quests required to make chain quest progression viable, ontop of the content from 1.0 being remade for ARR -- There's plenty of content at launch for people to do.

A lot of stuff promised for 2.0 were always promised for after launch, the only thing we were truly promised with at launch was a redesigned world, new client, new game engine, new interface and new server systems.

[darkstarpoet1]

What's broken though?
In this topic people are complaining that the content that wasn't planned for release (important part here) won't be there for release, therefore the game will have basically no end game content. I think that's a twisted way of thinking, and it's a little too early to judge such stuff. In reality, we still don't know how much will be there.

i'm not saying that there won't be any content. what i am saying is that the people saying there will be and telling the people asking about it to stop worrying sounds just like release. the people defending se on release thought se had enough of a clue to know what needed to be fixed and that they would do it. they wound up being wrong time after time.

what i am saying is you have no idea if there will be a bunch of content anymore than the people talking about they are afraid there won't be. we also have to remember in the first players poll the number 1 answer of what people wanted was content and that was well over a year ago(closer to 2). i can't blame them for being worried that this will just be nothing more than a big patch with little content being released with it because se has been so cryptic so far and closed lip about what is actually planned.

i'm not saying they are right about that and there won't be any content, but people telling them they are wrong without knowing anything either is very close to what we had on original release.

[Gokulo]

i'm not saying they are right about that and there won't be any content, but people telling them they are wrong without knowing anything either is very close to what we had on original release.

That's true and that's why this discussion shouldn't be happening right now, because both sides have nothing to prove their point with in reality.

[Yves]

the forums remind me of beta and original release.

alpha: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for beta"
beta: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for release"
release: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for next golden patch"
golden patch fail: this is bad and needs to be fixed "wait for 2.0"

we are on track for
2.0 release: this is broke and needs to be fixed "wait for next patch"

Wow...ridiculous post. You can't be serious?!

...because you forgot "working as intended" as a response!

Your post cracked me up, amigo.

[Punainen]

Meh, I'm patient. I waited this long, I can wait longer. The pretty new world and battle system, crafting, gathering etc will keep me occupied until then.

[darkstarpoet1]

That's true and that's why this discussion shouldn't be happening right now, because both sides have nothing to prove their point with in reality.

that's why i said it reminds me of release. that was said then. i don't mind people bringing up concerns. if the mods or devs feel it's something they need to straighten out they'll comment on it.

[Xerius]

I think the thing to realize is that this isn't a new game being released. A lot of people will be starting 2.0 with several 50's. It's not like a conventional launch where everyone has to level to 50 before experiencing endgame content. Most people will be able to jump right into it. Thus, if there isn't a lot of challenging content people will grow bored rather quickly. I agree with the SWTOR statement. I think they should have a plethora of content to explore at launch and then drizzle in new content as they go to keep the game exciting.

[Cynthis]

What anoys me is the complete lack of clarity from SE with regards to the roadmap for 2.0 and subsequent patches. Surely such a roadmap exists but instead every statement is just as vague as the previous one. I am not even talking about dates, just what features will be in 2.0 and what are the priorities after that. So based on this quote, it sounds to me like:

First patch after 2.0: PvP, player housing. Both of these are talked about as soon after launch.
Second patch: ???. Surely this would have to be free companies as this would probably be about 4 months after release and not having a guild-like system for even that long is pretty damn poor. I would have though free companies was a very high priority for 2.0.

My point is, just release this roadmap and stop the speculation and deliberate vagueness because right now in every interview it actually sounds like you don't have a plan and that has to be disconcerting to anyone who contemplates coming back for 2.0.