Make a limit on Jump

[Alhanelem]

Add platforming so jumping is actually useful.

Jump seemed useful to me in the videos.

As for a toggle:

A toggle to turn off other people jumping is stupid. What would ruin your immersion more: People jumping a lot, or people walking through rocks and fences when you can't actually do that? Jumping isn't something you can just turn off. Your character is moving in the game world. How can you hide that? It will look wrong no matter how you do it. You'll still know they're jumping- the character is moving up and down and left and right, the only way to hide jumping is to hide the fact that they're moving at all.

[Andrien]

First grass and now jump again. fansites and even the youtube community is laughing at this whole forum community.

Enough is enough, jump is coming and along with it some awesome 2D leaves, and grass.

[Priya]

First grass and now jump again. fansites and even the youtube community is laughing at this whole forum community.

Enough is enough, jump is coming and along with it some awesome 2D leaves, and grass.

Not that I don't believe you (any outsider glancing at the forums here would be able to tell it's either full of complete idiots or brilliant trolls), but do you have links? That would be hilarious to read.



P.S.-- My significant other (a WoW player) just told me that what SE should add is a counter by every character that shows how many times they have jumped in the past hour, so that we know just who these excessive jumpers are. (lolololol)

[Gramul]

Jump seemed useful to me in the videos.

As for a toggle:

A toggle to turn off other people jumping is stupid. What would ruin your immersion more: People jumping a lot, or people walking through rocks and fences when you can't actually do that? Jumping isn't something you can just turn off. Your character is moving in the game world. How can you hide that? It will look wrong no matter how you do it. You'll still know they're jumping- the character is moving up and down and left and right, the only way to hide jumping is to hide the fact that they're moving at all.

Why do you care? You wouldn't use it. It wouldn't even effect you.

[Alhanelem]

Why do you care? You wouldn't use it. It wouldn't even effect you.

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the existence of a feature or lack thereof if it "doesn't affect me" in your subjective opinion? OK. So what you're saying is that only arguments for filtering out jump are allowed. Nobody is allowed to speak against it, because it "wouldn't affect them because they wouldn't use it."

There is no logical means of implementing this. The server has to literally lie about the player's current position in order for this to happen. I was pointing out the fact that masking people jumping breaks immersion just as much as not masking it. By the only concieveable means of implementing it, immersion (the reason most people give when complaining about this) is broken by players appearing to perform physically impossible movements.

It's not practical to filter out every little thing that bothers a person. I could post to SE and say "it bothers me when people stand around in town." Should SE add an option to make all idle players invisible? SE has better things they could invest their time in.

It's easy to say "they should add an option for <stuff>, because adding options seems like win-win. However, every option added has a development cost. the number of options for various things that they could add to the game is endless- it has to stop somewhere or we won't get content because they're too busy adding every little option to turn off <insert thing here> that <insert person here> doesn't like.

People should just accept that jump is in the game and if they don't like people who jump a lot, then they should simply not associate with such people. Kick them from every party and ignore their tells or block list them. If they annoy you, they don't deserve your time.

[Rokien]

Why do you care? You wouldn't use it. It wouldn't even effect you.

I find it funny because he and others have used the same argument towards other things, like for example dungeon finder.

[Gramul]

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the existence of a feature or lack thereof if it "doesn't affect me" in your subjective opinion? OK. So what you're saying is that only arguments for filtering out jump are allowed. Nobody is allowed to speak against it, because it "wouldn't affect them because they wouldn't use it."

There is no logical means of implementing this. The server has to literally lie about the player's current position in order for this to happen. I was pointing out the fact that masking people jumping breaks immersion just as much as not masking it. By the only concieveable means of implementing it, immersion (the reason most people give when complaining about this) is broken by players appearing to perform physically impossible movements.

It's not practical to filter out every little thing that bothers a person. I could post to SE and say "it bothers me when people stand around in town." Should SE add an option to make all idle players invisible? SE has better things they could invest their time in.

It's easy to say "they should add an option for <stuff>, because adding options seems like win-win. However, every option added has a development cost. the number of options for various things that they could add to the game is endless- it has to stop somewhere or we won't get content because they're too busy adding every little option to turn off <insert thing here> that <insert person here> doesn't like.

People should just accept that jump is in the game and if they don't like people who jump a lot, then they should simply not associate with such people. Kick them from every party and ignore their tells or block list them. If they annoy you, they don't deserve your time.

Not once did I say that your opinion doesn't matter, but I am trying to point out that it won't bother you in the least if something like it was implemented, hypothetically speaking. I'm asking why it would bother you if it was there. You don't see people using it, you're not made ill by its implementation.

It's like saying, "if you don't like it, don't use it", but unlike jumping, you can't even tell if others are using it.


A possible way for it to work would be to visually subtract the Y position of the character from its hitbox with the ground as a buffer and play a running animation through it if the subject moves ZX and have it work like walking over cliffs work in 1.0. It's not rocket science...well, okay it's still a science, but it's not too hard to come up with solutions if it's cleanly coded. I flat out refuse to believe something like that would cut harshly into development time and cost that it would significantly damage the development of other features, especially with a development team of that size.

I think it's worth implementing. Jump spam is a big issue for a lot of people. Pretty much every time I talk about MMO's to people, jump spam comes up, especially when it serves little to no practical use other than to "making travel more interesting".

Heck, I'd modify DAT file for the animation myself if that wasn't against the rules.

But please don't think I was trying to stifle your view, I was just trying to challenge it. Sometimes I forget I lose vocal tone when just typing.

[Denmo]

Gramul, you're going in my comic as the guy that hates hopping.

[Gramul]

Gramul, you're going in my comic as the guy that hates hopping.

You know Rokien hates it even more than I do...I think.

I'd be fine with it if it was needed.

There was no real point of implementing this. It was literally made to make the player feel "unattached to the ground".

It's not practical to implement every little thing that makes a person feel dynamic just for the sake of it. I could post to SE and say "I don't like how I'm so upright" Should SE add an option to slouch or crawl? SE has better things they could invest their time in.

[Denmo]

You know Rokien hates it even more than I do...I think.

I'm saving him for if I ever feel the need to make a comic about the XIV forums in general.