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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    So I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the existence of a feature or lack thereof if it "doesn't affect me" in your subjective opinion? OK. So what you're saying is that only arguments for filtering out jump are allowed. Nobody is allowed to speak against it, because it "wouldn't affect them because they wouldn't use it."

    There is no logical means of implementing this. The server has to literally lie about the player's current position in order for this to happen. I was pointing out the fact that masking people jumping breaks immersion just as much as not masking it. By the only concieveable means of implementing it, immersion (the reason most people give when complaining about this) is broken by players appearing to perform physically impossible movements.

    It's not practical to filter out every little thing that bothers a person. I could post to SE and say "it bothers me when people stand around in town." Should SE add an option to make all idle players invisible? SE has better things they could invest their time in.

    It's easy to say "they should add an option for <stuff>, because adding options seems like win-win. However, every option added has a development cost. the number of options for various things that they could add to the game is endless- it has to stop somewhere or we won't get content because they're too busy adding every little option to turn off <insert thing here> that <insert person here> doesn't like.

    People should just accept that jump is in the game and if they don't like people who jump a lot, then they should simply not associate with such people. Kick them from every party and ignore their tells or block list them. If they annoy you, they don't deserve your time.

    Not once did I say that your opinion doesn't matter, but I am trying to point out that it won't bother you in the least if something like it was implemented, hypothetically speaking. I'm asking why it would bother you if it was there. You don't see people using it, you're not made ill by its implementation.

    It's like saying, "if you don't like it, don't use it", but unlike jumping, you can't even tell if others are using it.


    A possible way for it to work would be to visually subtract the Y position of the character from its hitbox with the ground as a buffer and play a running animation through it if the subject moves ZX and have it work like walking over cliffs work in 1.0. It's not rocket science...well, okay it's still a science, but it's not too hard to come up with solutions if it's cleanly coded. I flat out refuse to believe something like that would cut harshly into development time and cost that it would significantly damage the development of other features, especially with a development team of that size.

    I think it's worth implementing. Jump spam is a big issue for a lot of people. Pretty much every time I talk about MMO's to people, jump spam comes up, especially when it serves little to no practical use other than to "making travel more interesting".

    Heck, I'd modify DAT file for the animation myself if that wasn't against the rules.

    But please don't think I was trying to stifle your view, I was just trying to challenge it. Sometimes I forget I lose vocal tone when just typing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Why do you care? You wouldn't use it. It wouldn't even effect you.
    I find it funny because he and others have used the same argument towards other things, like for example dungeon finder.
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    LOL this thread actually exists.
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    Imagine that text:

    "You cannot jump again because... your legs hurt? I don't know... sure, wait 10 seconds."
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    soo out of that video the onlything you could think of is "I am going to post a thread to complain about jumping" and never thought to take into consideration all the other cool aspects they put out? Hell , Im glad we dont have to run through a damn labryth in Grid anymore, that alone is awsome, somone complaining about " /cry , they wont stop jumping, mom! tell them to stop jumping!" just makes me think you one of those spoiled little kids that must get their way or you will start stomping on the ground and crying like a horse's ass. seriously, just leave it alone, I dont like the idea of an un needed aspect but im not gona complain about it either, soo long as SE isn't gimping the game, Im fine.
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    Can we get an ankle-bite emote for lalafell? :3
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    First grass and now jump again. fansites and even the youtube community is laughing at this whole forum community.

    Enough is enough, jump is coming and along with it some awesome 2D leaves, and grass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    First grass and now jump again. fansites and even the youtube community is laughing at this whole forum community.

    Enough is enough, jump is coming and along with it some awesome 2D leaves, and grass.

    Not that I don't believe you (any outsider glancing at the forums here would be able to tell it's either full of complete idiots or brilliant trolls), but do you have links? That would be hilarious to read.



    P.S.-- My significant other (a WoW player) just told me that what SE should add is a counter by every character that shows how many times they have jumped in the past hour, so that we know just who these excessive jumpers are. (lolololol)
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    Last edited by Priya; 08-19-2012 at 10:26 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by fusional View Post
    i'd kinda like to give priya hugs with my mouth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Q20: Will we ever be able to send tells from within an instanced area?

    A20: While the feature can be implemented, it’s currently masked. It’s currently masked because we would like to prevent players from harassing each other just because they know they would never party together in the future. We will continue to monitor the situation carefully as we move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trollestia View Post
    If anyone jumps in my linkshell I'm breaking their pearl. This ruins the game.
    TROLLOLOLOLOL.. nice try tho
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    I was against jump originally, but after seeing it in action, I have no problem with it.
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