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    The fact that Neptune and others think this is a 'quickfix' that actually deserves resources and time to 'fix', just goes to show how little he/they know about programming.

    I'm making a game myself with FAR less complicated graphics than this, and if you asked me last minute to change all the plantlife in the game, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself. There isn't any easy 'replace this with this' button. This isn't MSPaint.
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    first jump. then 'overly' sexy gear.

    ...now i guess we'll get 40+ pages about grass.

    best community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    The fact that Neptune and others think this is a 'quickfix' that actually deserves resources and time to 'fix', just goes to show how little he/they know about programming.

    I'm making a game myself with FAR less complicated graphics than this, and if you asked me last minute to change all the plantlife in the game, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself. There isn't any easy 'replace this with this' button. This isn't MSPaint.
    Can't expect them to actually know what they're talking about. It's much easier said than done and there are tons of things to consider in making a decision like that, especially considering how many other elements it could throw off. Personally I'm fine with the current grass, especially if the game runs fine with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    You know this isn't some petty matter about someone quitting the game over an insignificant flaw. This is a discussion of excellence in game design and aspiring to make the best of the relaunch of a failed game. In this topic grass is the part of the whole that could see improvement. That you have to phrase the discussion so poorly speaks to the smallness of your own mind, Punainen.
    So let me get this straight... You win arguments by having a God-complex, and attempting to belittle the intelligence of the competition. Noooot exactly a way to win against people who ACTUALLY think for themselves. You've spent too much time debating against children. Welcome to the bigleagues, where 'hinting' that you think I'm stupid wont cover the fact that you can't carry your argument on real merits.

    Come back when you can actually make a competent argument as to why, after complaining about the copy-paste environment, you think they should make all the plantlife look identical, all be the same color, and magically rotate; and should waste countless hours UNDOING what they've already done to 'fix' an issue that no one ever complained about until you just now.

    GRASS will not spell the life or death of this game. Ever.


    Edit: Also there was absolutely nothing wrong with my 'phrasing'. Try actually knowing how to construct a proper sentence and use words in their proper context before you attempt to lord over me with your 'superior intellect'. For that matter you may as well just stop trying if you don't know how; as a flamboyant sentence structure and eloquent (misused) phrasing doesn't actually convince me that I'm being outwitted.
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    Last edited by Punainen; 08-15-2012 at 10:52 PM.

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    I just wanted to say that SHARLA, DID YOU SEE ME? and REYN TIME
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    lol they will surely revamp every single leaf of grass in their whole new world especially for you,
    they will just make up a few thousand variations in a couple of hours and simply overwrite the original data with them,
    that's how it works right?

    oh while were at it they should change the sky to more of a cyan, i am so sick of this dull old blue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Well, actually, Maya has a nice grass generator in the hair modifier.
    It's be a while since I've used Maya, but if memory serves, the hair/fur generators work using relatively high-poly surfaces not billboarded textures; great for pre-rendered movies or cutscenes, but not really practical for the current discussion.

    As for the discussion at hand, I think it's pretty much up to each person to decide if this is an upgrade or downgrade. In terms of just the grass and it's raw graphical prowess, probably a downgrade. But personally, those real-time shadows make up for it for me. Those are some of the best looking (not realistic, but eye pleasing) shadows I've seen in any game. My only complaint would be the lack of self-cast shadows, but those are notoriously hard on processors, so I'll let that slide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    The fact that Neptune and others think this is a 'quickfix' that actually deserves resources and time to 'fix', just goes to show how little he/they know about programming.

    I'm making a game myself with FAR less complicated graphics than this, and if you asked me last minute to change all the plantlife in the game, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself. There isn't any easy 'replace this with this' button. This isn't MSPaint.
    I mean, it's really stupid to think that SE has a high budget and specialists who know how to code better than an amateur.
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    thread lock by post 100
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptune View Post
    Same^ Who is Neptune? I totally agree with him right now.
    Okay I just have to laugh at this.. hahahahahaha,

    Okay Neptune, if Crappy grass is what it takes to help the frame rate etc.. I gladly will take the crappy grass .
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