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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    You never did CC!? *kicked*
    You never did AV? *kicked*
    You never did DH? *kicked*
    You never did Ifrit, Garuda, Moogle!? *kicked*
    How dare you be in a LS other than ours!? *kicked*
    If you didnt do those things you would prolly be better off in a social shell, an endgame shell wont be interrested in ya.
    and that is only fair cause the endgame shell been there done that already, they dun wanna start doin' it again for you dude.
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    Jennestia's Avatar
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriSan View Post
    If you didnt do those things you would prolly be better off in a social shell.
    How can you do those without people who can/want to do it? Despite popular belief not every social shell out there is capable of doing 'end-game content' so you can gain experience. Normally you join an end-game shell to get said experience. This is the main problem with the XIV community -- so unwilling to just open up and help people do things.

    and that is only fair cause the endgame shell been there done that already, they dun wanna start doin' it again for you dude.
    Problem number 2 -- if you're not willing to help people beyond your own personal goals, there's a problem. Some social shells have some end-game members, but guess what the general #1 rule is for end-game shells?

    "You can only use our shell for end-game activities"

    So honestly, this is the wrong attitude to have with such a small playerbase, especially because the new people who join will immediately get shrugged off on doing content simply because they're new and have no experience -- You know what will kill ARR? The community, not SE, especially if this type of attitude continues. Yes you can prefer people with experience, but how do you think said people even get experience to begin with?

    I can promise that when you first started XIV and these content released you were in the same shoes as those you're shrugging off.
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    Last edited by Jennestia; 08-08-2012 at 05:57 AM.

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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I can promise that when you first started XIV and these content released you were in the same shoes as those you're shrugging off.
    Actually, Yuri and I got groups together and just went for it as far as early end-game went. There's no reason anyone that's not in an end-game shell couldn't do the same to gain experience needed to apply to an end-game shell. Clearly there are other folks in the same boat, those that have got a few 50s but not much end-game experience. Just shout in uldah or in your social LSes for a training run. There's probably even a few more experienced players that wouldn't mind helping out. It's not hard to gain the experience, and you don't NEED an end-game shell to do so, you might for speed runs, but just to learn the game/dungeon mechanics better? Certainly not.


    I personally feel that the "experienced players only model" is bullshit, but it's not a catch 22 scenario either as some others seem to think. But what would I know? my shell is sort of a best of both type shell.
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    Last edited by Molly_Millions; 08-08-2012 at 06:21 AM.