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    The other day I went on a rant at work and Bayohne called me crazy, because I was looping the Darnus song and swore that they were saying “Imperium, imperium, imperium ave.” Vindication is oh so sweet, because it seems players picked up on this as well!

    It just so happens that there is a very good reason for this!

    Grammatically the lyrics we introduced are correct:

    Imperium!
    Imperium!
    Ave imperium!

    However, what is actually sung is:

    Imperium!
    Imperium!
    Imperium ave

    “Imperium ave” is grammatically not really a natural expression; however, Latin is an extremely ambiguous language and it seems when Latin is sung anything goes, making this inversion okay!

    Being a linguist, this kind of stuff gets me quite excited :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    The other day I went on a rant at work and Bayohne called me crazy, because I was looping the Darnus song and swore that they were saying “Imperium, imperium, imperium ave.” Vindication is oh so sweet, because it seems players picked up on this as well!

    It just so happens that there is a very good reason for this!

    Grammatically the lyrics we introduced are correct:

    Imperium!
    Imperium!
    Ave imperium!

    However, what is actually sung is:

    Imperium!
    Imperium!
    Imperium ave

    “Imperium ave” is grammatically not really a natural expression; however, Latin is an extremely ambiguous language and it seems when Latin is sung anything goes, making this inversion okay!

    Being a linguist, this kind of stuff gets me quite excited :P
    I knew it was "Imperium Ave" from the start, but I didn't bother saying anything because I knew that "Ave Imperium" was still grammatically correct. Really, as long as its all within its same sentence, you can jumble the words as much as you want and its still correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punainen View Post
    ...Really, as long as its all within its same sentence, you can jumble the words as much as you want and its still correct.
    And this is why Latin is awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDace0 View Post
    And this is why Latin is awesome.
    It's also why tense is sooo effing important in Latin.

    Also, the sentences in Latin can get very, very long without being called a run-on.

    - do not miss the two years of Latin I, I took. >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    It's also why tense is sooo effing important in Latin.

    Also, the sentences in Latin can get very, very long without being called a run-on.

    - do not miss the two years of Latin I, I took. >.>
    If only i could of taken two years for Latin I, I was forced to take it in 1 year ><. I remember in Latin III, where Cicero wrote a sentence that was a page and a half long.
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    Imperium ave is correct; in latin, very frequently, if the declensions are right, the order is extremely flexible.

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