Will DRG and PLD still be next to useless in 2.0?

[Ryans]

As a Blm, I see a noticeable difference in threat generation of Pld over War, at least in fights where burning matters. I'm normally limited by threat with a warrior tank and instead limited by mana with a paladin tank.

[Xianghua]

DRG and MNK on Ifrit Ex are pretty much Equal. But It really depends on the player and the type of Ifrit. (Jump spam ifrit really kills DRG and makes it hard to get/keep PS3 up.)

I'd really like to see a parse though of 2 ppl with a more aggressive play style but still able to dodge cracks/plumes.

[Xianghua]

You mean MNK and DRG right? PLD is still a pretty decent tank and can be used anywhere. MNK and DRG in the other hand are pretty much gimp compared to Black Mage.

90% of the game events you will be asked to go as Black Mage for DD. That proves that something is wrong with this game.

No that proves something is wrong with this community. Ever Job shines one way or another. Its not that MNK and DRG are gimp, Far from it actually. The problem is most of the community does not have the skill level to play mnk/drg effectively.

[Alerith]

DRG and MNK are the two jobs with the highest POTENTIAL to surpass BLM.

It takes a very well geared, well skilled DRG/MNK to surpass a BLM. You can't expect any shmuck who picks up the job to instantly beat out the magic DD.

[Velhart]

You mean MNK and DRG right? PLD is still a pretty decent tank and can be used anywhere. MNK and DRG in the other hand are pretty much gimp compared to Black Mage.

90% of the game events you will be asked to go as Black Mage for DD. That proves that something is wrong with this game.

BLM isn't more powerful, it is only more convenient. DRG and MNK can easily out damage a BLM as a BLM can out damage them. It really depends on skill and gear who triumphs. So in actuality, all three DPS are pretty balanced. It is the fights themselves that cause the feeling of "not balanced", which isn't even 100% true itself.

[stanleyyoung]

No that proves something is wrong with this community. Ever Job shines one way or another. Its not that MNK and DRG are gimp, Far from it actually. The problem is most of the community does not have the skill level to play mnk/drg effectively.

i agree also with this evey class/job does have its purpose along with its use. some classes/jobs are used more then others one: the current player community really conforms to a set stragedy for content which causes the problem where blm or war are only allowed or preferred! (aoe fest)

two: most ppl dont know how to effectiviely play pld, mnk, drg, bard so they resort to jobs like war and blm that are generally easier to pick up since they are more dominant anyhow. also they choose blm and war since they are in most demand anyways so why would a unskilled person lvl, gear up and try to play a class/job that requires alot more knowledge then blm and war.

three: most of the content we have now really leans towards war and blm (aoe fest), hopefully in 2.0 we will have balanced content that each class/job shines and thrives.

i would say that the only class/job that is gimped is gla/pld all others are pretty much decent and balanced. even when a skilled/experienced well geared gla/pld the player is still at a disadvantage compared to war since gla/pld needs to be reworked and fixed. (not trying to start a argurment between war vs pld but is pretty clear which has the upper hand).
(also dont wanna discredit the war or blm saying they dont require any skill to be played,so no need to get mad and riot).

[Jocko]

This is probably grounds for a witch trial, but I'm of the opinion that not every class has to be viable in every situation, particularly in a game designed around having multiple classes. Excluding classes from fights actually gives the developers more room to create interesting and varied encounters. For example, a boss who's physical immune or highly resistant, forcing a party composition of all mages, the fight revolving around intensive MP management. Not every fight obviously, but a few oddballs would give that game quite a bit of 'flavor' in my opinion

[Ricky]

Respect for admitting you were wrong, now they need to make Monk a little stronger and every job is good to go

[TimonLoon]

MNK a little stronger?? Does not compute.

See sig.

[Mijin]

MNK a little stronger?? Does not compute.

See sig.

I don't get it what about the sig?

Damnit... This is what happens when I promise myself I'm only going to alt tab for no more than 2 min and I check in on some forums...