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  1. #31
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    Haledos Atrelies
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    Lancer Lv 52
    I'm glad they're keeping vanity slots out. It's a part of modern MMOs that I hate. It used to be a point of MMOs to show off the rare gear you've discovered.
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  2. #32
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    Rui Oran
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    I like how the term "mindless questing" comes into play. I didn't know that learning more about the story/world in Final Fantasy VII/IX/XII/Tactics/any other fucking game in the series was mindless. Because you certainly didn't need to grind mobs endlessly in those games, unless you were tackling superbosses.

    I prefer camping over questing hubs, but christ this community is so full of shit. SITTING IN FRONT OF CRABS ALL DAY IS SO THOUGHT PROVOKING, BUT FIGHTING A MINOR ANTAGONIST IN A SMALL QUEST ISN'T.
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  3. #33
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    I like how the term "mindless questing" comes into play. I didn't know that learning more about the story/world in Final Fantasy VII/IX/XII/Tactics/any other fucking game in the series was mindless. Because you certainly didn't need to grind mobs endlessly in those games, unless you were tackling superbosses.

    I prefer camping over questing hubs, but christ this community is so full of shit. SITTING IN FRONT OF CRABS ALL DAY IS SO THOUGHT PROVOKING, BUT FIGHTING A MINOR ANTAGONIST IN A SMALL QUEST ISN'T.
    For once, you and I agree. Irrational fear of the Modern MMO strikes again, I think.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  4. #34
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    As long as the content is good, there's no problem. But Yoshi and his peers already made the admission that their questing system is kinda lame and they couldnt be bothered wasting resources on it, despite making the conscious effort to go that route. I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".

    I just love how "roaming primals" became "standard instanced primals" and "fully voiced" became "occasionally voiced". Everything they've ever said is such empty hype, it's kinda amusing now. lol.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".
    You do realize that they were referring to Voice Acting when they were talking about this, right? For all you know, they could have meant over the course of time. Voice Acting is an incredibly expensive thing to factor in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    You do realize that they were referring to Voice Acting when they were talking about this, right? For all you know, they could have meant over the course of time. Voice Acting is an incredibly expensive thing to factor in.
    Well I'm not saying I endorse full voice acting, it's just that they made the claim and it fell through, as did roaming primals, etc.
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  7. #37
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    Holy Dragoon
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    Really worried about quest based leveling. It is why I don't play the clones
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  8. #38
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    At least quests in XI/XIV are a lot more interesting, often with their own background stories and teaching you about the history of the world etc. rather than the MMO standard of 'go kill/gather X number of these because I said so'.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    As long as the content is good, there's no problem. But Yoshi and his peers already made the admission that their questing system is kinda lame and they couldnt be bothered wasting resources on it, despite making the conscious effort to go that route. I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".
    It was more like "We make many quests without voice-over and only the important quests with voice-over instead of all quests with voice-over with only a handfull quests each update"
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    At least quests in XI/XIV are a lot more interesting, often with their own background stories and teaching you about the history of the world etc. rather than the MMO standard of 'go kill/gather X number of these because I said so'.
    But if it goes to quest based levelling, this is what it'll go back to: The days of levequest spam.

    People complained about this, so they added in monster grinding, now they're going back to leve-spamming?
    Square-Enix logic.

    I personally want to know what primals are going to be in 2.0, and if the current primal rewards will still be obtainable.
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