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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    Killing a bear for a pelt is pretty epic I agree. Anyone who thinks there's going to be some long epic quests to level up with are kidding themselves.
    Quests also allow for more interaction with NPCs? Heading into town to grab quests, restock on supplies, etc. Exploring the zone you're currently in, adventure. You get to see far more than you do with camping. And guess what? You can do quests with friends! Camping is sitting by the same rock and watching the same enemy die over and over.

    Which sounds more appealing to the typical Final Fantasy player? However, I do agree that I hope there is more variety than kill X for Y. Have us tackle NMs via marks given in towns or something to break the monotony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    Killing a bear for a pelt is pretty epic I agree. Anyone who thinks there's going to be some long epic quests to level up with are kidding themselves.
    Other MMOs have been doing zone-long cohesive storylines for several years now. Are you saying that Square-Enix is incapable of doing the same?

    If you're worried about XIV's quests being boring, that's not a problem inherent to the format, that's a problem with the people who are designing the content.
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    Last edited by Keres; 08-02-2012 at 02:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keres View Post
    Other MMOs have been doing zone-long cohesive storylines for several years now. Are you saying that Square-Enix is incapable of doing the same?
    FFXIV can't do it in quite the same fashion, though. Other games have you quest through an area as part of your leveling process, and have you finish the quests around the same time that you outlevel the area. FFXIV has you leveling multiple jobs, which means that you're going to be revisiting each area multiple times. Implementing quest-based progression instead of grind-based progression means setting up a system that allows you to have quests available when you revisit an area later on with a different class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melinia View Post
    FFXIV can't do it in quite the same fashion, though. Other games have you quest through an area as part of your leveling process, and have you finish the quests around the same time that you outlevel the area. FFXIV has you leveling multiple jobs, which means that you're going to be revisiting each area multiple times. Implementing quest-based progression instead of grind-based progression means setting up a system that allows you to have quests available when you revisit an area later on with a different class.
    And this is why there will be mobs in the Open World to kill in a Group ya know? =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruk View Post
    Killing a bear for a pelt is pretty epic I agree. Anyone who thinks there's going to be some long epic quests to level up with are kidding themselves.
    Only if you skip the talking.
    It is all about the story. The task (killing the bear) is only something you do to earn the story.
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    As long as the content is good, there's no problem. But Yoshi and his peers already made the admission that their questing system is kinda lame and they couldnt be bothered wasting resources on it, despite making the conscious effort to go that route. I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".

    I just love how "roaming primals" became "standard instanced primals" and "fully voiced" became "occasionally voiced". Everything they've ever said is such empty hype, it's kinda amusing now. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".
    You do realize that they were referring to Voice Acting when they were talking about this, right? For all you know, they could have meant over the course of time. Voice Acting is an incredibly expensive thing to factor in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    You do realize that they were referring to Voice Acting when they were talking about this, right? For all you know, they could have meant over the course of time. Voice Acting is an incredibly expensive thing to factor in.
    Well I'm not saying I endorse full voice acting, it's just that they made the claim and it fell through, as did roaming primals, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbygunz View Post
    As long as the content is good, there's no problem. But Yoshi and his peers already made the admission that their questing system is kinda lame and they couldnt be bothered wasting resources on it, despite making the conscious effort to go that route. I mean, they basically admitted to this when they said "we'd rather make 200 subpar quests than a few good ones".
    It was more like "We make many quests without voice-over and only the important quests with voice-over instead of all quests with voice-over with only a handfull quests each update"
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    Really worried about quest based leveling. It is why I don't play the clones
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