Is 2.0 a new game? a rebranding attempt? an update? an expansion? a fix? What Is It?

[Aion]

A rebranding of the FFXIV franchise.
An expansion of the story.
A revamp of the lore.
A redesign of the maps, UI, and engine.

Why can't it be all these things? Why do you have to make it black and white?

Thats too logical

[shanvhere]

Last I checked, a new graphics engine doesn't make a new game. I'm also fairly certain that when 2.0 hits, I'll be playing the same Alerith that I was playing in 1.0. The maps also aren't "new", they are redone. There is still gonna be a Thanalan, simply divided into zones. Also, many things from 1.0 are actually staying and being ported over. Main storyline for example.

Also, we don't know what effect Dalamud is going to have on Eorzea. Destruction is possible, but not for certain.

So when I get another pair of shoes with better designs is not a new pair of shoes? And I meant character creations due to the over haul on making a character is different, you will be able to change your character come 2.0. And from the looks of it the maps are new cause when you redo anything it's new.

[Azurymber]

So when I get another pair of shoes with better designs is not a new pair of shoes? And I meant character creations due to the over haul on making a character is different, you will be able to change your character come 2.0. And from the looks of it the maps are new cause when you redo anything it's new.

who gets new shoes? Clearly you just redesign and update them.

[moizeus]

at least this one > Look better than the current UI

[Gumbercules]

I don't quite see why people are so offended by the post, it actually does bring up a valid point. SE has to go outta its way to say "were not the same as we were at release, were something new" loud and clearly. As for who cares about IGN and other such sites? A considerable amount of players do, for both PC and console gaming. We will have to see how clear SE has made what 2.0 is by the end of August and October, but clarity is important for 2.0's future.

[ToxicFox]

Somehow I was blessed enough to not see this thread until now... *shoots self*

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

First off, you are not in charge of their marketing and we should keep it that way. Don't know why you have to create this thread because you think people are confused about what A Realm Reborn really is because it's not your job to explain it. It's theirs. Also, it's very early into unveiling their new title and have yet to go on their media rampage.

Second, if IGN explained what A Realm Reborn is incorrectly then that is their fault. Gaming bloggers --I think they like to think of their selves as journalists ha-- were never the best researchers and won't be the best researchers. Oh, unless you fund their sites with tons of money to get them to advertise. Other than that, the bloggers on almost every gaming site are just as read up on the subject they're reporting as a fox news commentator.

Third, there are entirely more effective ways to do something about this as a player than create a thread about it on the actual game's official forums. You could like... comment on their article and point out how their wording is wrong, reference quotes and articles to prove your point.

Finally, and I hope you understand this, MMOs are never going to be represented correctly. I like to look at MMOs as religions and their subscriptions as followers of their dogma. Right now, FFXIV is like the Scientology of MMOs and it's trying to recruit a Christian sized following. Conversion to this is just as difficult as it would be in that scenario. So, you're always going to have that bias there in articles where they just don't understand fully what it means to be a FFXIV fan nor will they ever be. It's a losing battle. It's better to just let those who have got it wrong to be corrected and learn on their own.

[Azurymber]

First off, you are not in charge of their marketing and we should keep it that way. Don't know why you have to create this thread because you think people are confused about what A Realm Reborn really is because it's not your job to explain it. It's theirs. Also, it's very early into unveiling their new title and have yet to go on their media rampage.

Second, if IGN explained what A Realm Reborn is incorrectly then that is their fault. Gaming bloggers --I think they like to think of their selves as journalists ha-- were never the best researchers and won't be the best researchers. Oh, unless you fund their sites with tons of money to get them to advertise. Other than that, the bloggers on almost every gaming site are just as read up on the subject they're reporting as a fox news commentator.

Third, there are entirely more effective ways to do something about this as a player than create a thread about it on the actual game's official forums. You could like... comment on their article and point out how their wording is wrong, reference quotes and articles to prove your point.

Finally, and I hope you understand this, MMOs are never going to be represented correctly. I like to look at MMOs as religions and their subscriptions as followers of their dogma. Right now, FFXIV is like the Scientology of MMOs and it's trying to recruit a Christian sized following. Conversion to this is just as difficult as it would be in that scenario. So, you're always going to have that bias there in articles where they just don't understand fully what it means to be a FFXIV fan nor will they ever be. It's a losing battle. It's better to just let those who have got it wrong to be corrected and learn on their own.

Even in this thread people can't agree on what 2.0 is, which only serves to prove the point i was making in the topic, and that i backed up with quotes.

If IGN which is read by thousands (probably over a million people as its 323 on the alexa rank) is misstating something about the game, the marketing department at SE is supposed to call them and correct them.
Journalism is supposed to get things right. And a site like IGN will correct itself because they have a reputation to uphold.

If a marketing department just ignores when journalists misrepresent their product, they are only hurting their product and company, and thus doing a terrible job. The whole idea of marketing is to shape how people perceive your product.

Now you might argue "you don't need to market games"... but then you look at games like Skyrim and SW:TOR and see that they spent millions marketing their game, resulting is mass success. There is a reason why companies have marketing departments. Even WoW advertises, and does so quite a bit. And they target their ad's based on marketing.

[Seif]

I don't quite see why people are so offended by the post, it actually does bring up a valid point. SE has to go outta its way to say "were not the same as we were at release, were something new" loud and clearly. As for who cares about IGN and other such sites? A considerable amount of players do, for both PC and console gaming. We will have to see how clear SE has made what 2.0 is by the end of August and October, but clarity is important for 2.0's future.

I agree. And what's up with everybody ganging up on one guy instead of discussing the topic? Even if you disagree it can be done without demeaning others failing that one can choose not to write anything at all.

[Alerith]

Even in this thread people can't agree on what 2.0 is, which only serves to prove the point i was making in the topic, and that i backed up with quotes.

If IGN which is read by thousands (probably over a million people as its 323 on the alexa rank) is misstating something about the game, the marketing department at SE is supposed to call them and correct them.
Journalism is supposed to get things right. And a site like IGN will correct itself because they have a reputation to uphold.

If a marketing department just ignores when journalists misrepresent their product, they are only hurting their product and company, and thus doing a terrible job. The whole idea of marketing is to shape how people perceive your product.

Now you might argue "you don't need to market games"... but then you look at games like Skyrim and SW:TOR and see that they spent millions marketing their game, resulting is mass success. There is a reason why companies have marketing departments. Even WoW advertises, and does so quite a bit. And they target their ad's based on marketing.

Because it's SE's responsibility to make shitty gaming journalists less shitty.

(Hint: Highly unlikely.)