Press and player reactions to the new XIV

[Nero]

Link me one review that is not from a professional where they had misled people, please do so

I asked you first to show me one, which is correct. Why didnt you?

Example 1:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html

About how people SHOULD NOT play FFXIV. You never say in a review to people stuff like this:

- in its current state, isn't worth playing.
- If you've never played an MMO before, this is most definitely not the place to start.

This review is FULL of stuff like that.

Example 2:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...oad/147/page/1

Full of personal opinions, which will misslead people.

- The biggest problem with Final Fantasy XIV is really that it feels like an incomplete video game, as if the final release should actually be a closed beta stage of production.

We dont need to talk about this. You heard a lot of people saying this on this Forum ( 3% of Playerbase ), but it doesnt change a fact that this is not everyone opinion, so it wasnt mine.

- Even the steps for making a new account are needlessly cumbersome and frustrating;

What?

- Monotonous running around, lukewarm cut scenes, and the bare minimum of information imaginable.

Personal opinion again. i NEVER had a feeling like this in FFXIV and i dont know many people who actually feelt like this.

- The interface is horribly clunky, and needlessly complex;
- but the key layout is terrible.
- controls and cumbersome combat makes it a nightmare to play.

And so on and so on. This is actually one of the most worst reviews. The writer should actually look for a normal Job or maybe he just got out of the Elementary School. What HE thinks about something, doesnt mean shit.. period. He have to explain the System and go into Detail and never should be like "Ah this is crap, this is bad bla bla".. why is it? He didnt say a single word on WHY ?! I would not call this a review, its more a badmouthing Blog.

Read the Comments below that "article" btw.

Do you need more? The are 2 of the Top 3 Google-Results, the first to came up is a current one.

[Renshi]

Again Planetside 2 is not FFXIV, Planetside 2 is a sequel to a moderate successful game planetside 1, it has it's own niche market, it is not competing with any of the other MMOS, also is a fresh tittle, it has not failed at release and has promised the world to it's players, to compare planetside 2 to FFXIV is just plain stupid.

FFXIV had a failed launch, it lost the vast majority of it's player base a month after release, most people who bought the game have not been keeping up with every single update, they just remember the failure it was at release, a CGI ala call of duty is not gonna change their minds, SE needs to show them, that the game has changed, how it has changed, what is in store in 2.0 and stop treating 2.0 like a entirely new tittle, it is not a new IP, is more alike to a mini expansion, with a full engine rebuild. Unless SE proves otherwise.

It doesn't matter, get out of that box and think about what I am talking about. CGI trailers don't make or break the game. I'm not comparing the playstyles, not even the worlds they live in, the fact that they are niche or whatever. What I am comparing is Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn's CGI trailer and their chances of success. Guess I shouldn't have talked about Planetside 2 afterall, next time I'll avoid talking about it~

[XxOstiaxX]

I asked you first to show me one, which is correct. Why didnt you?

Example 1:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/112/1123824p1.html

About how people SHOULD NOT play FFXIV. You never say in a review to people stuff like this:

- in its current state, isn't worth playing.
- If you've never played an MMO before, this is most definitely not the place to start.

This review is FULL of stuff like that.

Example 2:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...oad/147/page/1

Full of personal opinions, which will misslead people.

- The biggest problem with Final Fantasy XIV is really that it feels like an incomplete video game, as if the final release should actually be a closed beta stage of production.

We dont need to talk about this. You heard a lot of people saying this on this Forum ( 3% of Playerbase ), but it doesnt change a fact that this is not everyone opinion, so it wasnt mine.

- Even the steps for making a new account are needlessly cumbersome and frustrating;

What?

- Monotonous running around, lukewarm cut scenes, and the bare minimum of information imaginable.

Personal opinion again. i NEVER had a feeling like this in FFXIV and i dont know many people who actually feelt like this.

- The interface is horribly clunky, and needlessly complex;
- but the key layout is terrible.
- controls and cumbersome combat makes it a nightmare to play.

And so on and so on. This is actually one of the most worst reviews. The writer should actually look for a normal Job or maybe he just got out of the Elementary School. What HE thinks about something, doesnt mean shit.. period. He have to explain the System and go into Detail and never should be like "Ah this is crap, this is bad bla bla".. why is it? He didnt say a single word on WHY ?! I would not call this a review, its more a badmouthing Blog.

Read the Comments below that "article" btw.

Do you need more? The are 2 of the Top 3 Google-Results, the first to came up is a current one.

How where they wrong ? At release the game was incomplete and in no shape to be at release stage, that is the truth, is a fact acknowledged by SE Itself.......

So gaming sites gave the game bad reviews that where mostly spot on..... the publisher of the game comes out and openly admits the game blows and spends the next 2 years trying to fix it..... But the sites are at fault ?? Really ?? JAJAJAJA!

Seriously tho, even people that loved FFXI dint love this game, sure some did, but the entire majority of the gaming community agreed with the reviews, even the company did, so how can we then turn around and blame the reviews ?

[Nero]

How where they wrong ? At release the game was incomplete and in no shape to be at release stage, that is the truth, is a fact acknowledged by SE Itself.......

Ok.. for the last time, since you obviously dont have a clue what you are talking about and also dont have a clue about journalism.

It DOES NOT MATTER if the Game is/was incomplete, it DOES NOT MATTER if the writer feels that way. He/she have to give an objective VIEW about a Game. Thats it.. nothing more, nothing less.

IF a game is incomplete, point it out in an objective Sentence and never be like "not worth playing bla bla". I gave you 2 examples, which are exactly that case were writer trying to tell people what they should or should not do.

So gaming sites gave the game bad reviews that where mostly spot on.....

Mostly Spot on? Yeah.. exactly.. that is why FFXIV have ~40.000 +/- subscribers since Release.

the publisher of the game comes out and openly admits the game blows and spends the next 2 years trying to fix it.....

And? It does not matter, since there were still people who liked/loved it the way it was and still do. You are not getting the point.

But the sites are at fault ?? Really ?? JAJAJAJA!

Seriously.. what is wrong with you? Learn to read? Yes, they are and were wrong in the point of HOW TO WRITE A REVIEW.

Seriously tho, even people that loved FFXI dint love this game, sure some did, but the entire majority of the gaming community agreed with the reviews,

again...

even the company did, so how can we then turn around and blame the reviews ?

and again.. that is not how reviews have to be written. As soon as you put your personal opinion into it and badmouth it, not staying objective, it is not considerable as being a good review.

Oh.. and yeah... how do you know about the majority of the Game? Cause of the stuff you see on this forum? ( 3% of the playerbase, so the minority ). How can you speak for the majority? You can not!

But i will just give up.. you dont get it, you are twisting things to your own beliefs. You can have your own opinion of course, but you seriously dont know anything about reviews, or how you have to write them.

Are you a Troll?

[Kaizlu]

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But, wait. The game was pretty bad at launch, and therefore sites said the game was bad. How is that wrong? Reviews are opinions most of the time and how can they recommend something to their readers if the product being reviewed is incomplete. Doesn't matter if the game has had active players since launch - the game might be fun for some but that doesn't take away the fact that it's a really bad product in some sense.

Good experience does not equal a good product.

[Nero]

But, wait. The game was pretty bad at launch, and therefore sites said the game was bad. How is that wrong? Reviews are opinions most of the time and how can they recommend something to their readers if the product being reviewed is incomplete. Doesn't matter if the game has had active players since launch - the game might be fun for some but that doesn't take away the fact that it's a really bad product in some sense.

Good experience does not equal a good product.

Its wrong in the way they said it, it is that simple. I didnt say they were wrong or correct about what they said, i simply stated they did their reviews wrong. Yes reviews are opinions now a days and that is the problem.

You dont say stuff like "Dont play this, not worth it, this is bullshit". You dont say stuff like "this is the best game ever, go and buy it".

You should not tell anyone in a review what you should do or not do. You give views, you go into detail, you point stuff out, but always on an objective way. so people who read it can decide on their own.

[TheRac25]

Ok.. for the last time, since you obviously dont have a clue what you are talking about and also dont have a clue about journalism.

you have no clue, review is editorial and opinion, not journalism

[Nero]

you have no clue, review is editorial and opinion, not journalism

lol it is. What you call "review's" are actually "Blog's". If you study journalism, you actually learn to write reviews and previews.

/sarcasm on
Yes.. totally has nothing to do with journalism.
/sarcasm off

[TimonLoon]

What you wrote is not a review is basically propaganda. people don't read reviews to read what the developer should our should have not done in order to fix the flaws of the game, or improve it, that is not the job of reviewers, their job is to condense the entire experience and give a simple direct overview of the entire game, is it fun ? yes and why, you will like this because so so, or you will not because so so, and btw leves suck, they are worse than wow spam quests, for those alteast have a semblance of lore and progression, leves have none.....

This so fucking much. Especially later on in the game when the quests become dynamic and start altering the world around you. You can do quests and turn a small little village into a much bigger town. Or the Harrison Jones (Indiana Jones) quests that have you go on these epic adventures and tell a nice little side story. Then we have the joke quests that just poke fun at other games... Why? Because it's fun. Doesn't matter if it seems out of place. That Katamari quest was so awesome.

[XxOstiaxX]

Ok.. for the last time, since you obviously dont have a clue what you are talking about and also dont have a clue about journalism.

It DOES NOT MATTER if the Game is/was incomplete, it DOES NOT MATTER if the writer feels that way. He/she have to give an objective VIEW about a Game. Thats it.. nothing more, nothing less.

IF a game is incomplete, point it out in an objective Sentence and never be like "not worth playing bla bla". I gave you 2 examples, which are exactly that case were writer trying to tell people what they should or should not do.



Mostly Spot on? Yeah.. exactly.. that is why FFXIV have ~40.000 +/- subscribers since Release.



And? It does not matter, since there were still people who liked/loved it the way it was and still do. You are not getting the point.



Seriously.. what is wrong with you? Learn to read? Yes, they are and were wrong in the point of HOW TO WRITE A REVIEW.



again...



and again.. that is not how reviews have to be written. As soon as you put your personal opinion into it and badmouth it, not staying objective, it is not considerable as being a good review.

Oh.. and yeah... how do you know about the majority of the Game? Cause of the stuff you see on this forum? ( 3% of the playerbase, so the minority ). How can you speak for the majority? You can not!

But i will just give up.. you dont get it, you are twisting things to your own beliefs. You can have your own opinion of course, but you seriously dont know anything about reviews, or how you have to write them.

Are you a Troll?

Dude are you either #1 An idiot or #2 a raging Fanboy?

Seriously, the game was incomplete at release, it was utter garbage, by everybody's account except the very few hardcore fanboys that live in 1998, how can you say that it does not meter if the game was incomplete, but then point at the fact that reviews stated that the game was incomplete ? They told the truth, it was not an opinion, it was a Fact!

The game was so and so complete so you say, that it only had 40-50K players at release and they shipped 650K copies of the game....... Yeah that is some successful MMO right there Brah! The game then went free for 1 year and a few months, and it never ever had more than 20-30k players, even when it was FREE! Only and only after 2 years of updates and fixes, has the game seen a moderate surge in players(By the game's own standards) and guess what ? all those fixes and updates have been to adress the very problems reviews talked about... So really are you stupid ??