Hmmm, either you truly are trolling or you sure have some double standards going on...Thank to Cherelle on Ragnarok server for pointing this out to me, realy interesting that you post about this when you yourself were asking for the swimsuits and here is the link
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ghlight=bikini
Leaning towards trolling now.
omg thats sick why would you post a Male on that gear
just to clarify something, my reaction to that gear on a male has nothing to do with the problems the starter of this thread has with the females, I would never ever wear it couse it just aint right on an elvaan atleast, ive seen lalafel or w/e with it and its not bad, Galka or w/e there called now look cool with it, havent seen a hume male with it on, but it just dont fit the vibe the elvaan give, thats my opinion, oh I do have a set of both gears and when I remake as a male Mi'qoe or w/e the spelling for Mithra is now you can be sure as hell ill be wearing both full time, obviously not when doing stuff
its hard to type here /cry, have to explain every little detail so ppl dont get upset over shit, like you know someone will say "lol you wear that for events and stuff" and the answert is no just no I dont
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Some real world problems are starving children in Africa, oppression of womens' rights, and famine in North Korea.And before you think I'm not serious, I assure you I am. How often do you see men offended by other men in skimpy suits? Never.
Now see how often we women get offended by such things, even in video games? Very often, and for good reason. Just look at "Tropes vs. Women" on Kickstarter. She got funded 158k $ because this is a real world problem that needs to stop.
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Skimpy outfits and sexualizing characters in videogames are not real world problems. What a disgusting comment.
Most women I know have some common sense. They embrace this kind of stuff. In fact, not only do they accept it, they support it, because they don't lock their sexuality up and send it off in a rocket to a distant galaxy. They eat up fanservice just as much if not more than the guys do.
A person of sound mind would not be disgusted by this sort of thing. You might complain it is objectifying the female body, but the fact that a person would be complaining about showing off the female body is hypocritical to that sentiment. You are objectifying the female body by treating it as a thing that should be covered up. That is what I do not understand about feminists that argue these sorts of points. It is ridiculous. Instead of taking subject matter normally like "hey it's my body it's a beautiful thing", they treat it like a sexual object that should not be displayed.
There's a lot of sexualizing men too. If you can't see it in this game you are pretty damn blind. Also, I know some men who are offended by skimpy man dresses, and they're just as asinine.
I laughed pretty hard. XD
Of course it is possible! It happens all the time. It's pretty ignorant to think it can only be one-sided.
Just an example to show it can happen (though unrelated): My father is very sexist towards men. If he sees a man show any kind of emotion he picks on them and calls them girly/wimpy/unmanly.
Men DO get treated with sexism for their appearance as well. Just like women do at times.
I have a huge issue with sexism of any kind, but I just have to call bullshit on this..
SE is not being sexist. The outfits are equally showy for both sexes and have NOTHING to do with objectifying.
PEOPLE objectify people. Outfits do not.
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@OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:
They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.Originally Posted by Nabiri
Just an example to show it can happen (though unrelated): My father is very sexist towards men. If he sees a man show any kind of emotion he picks on them and calls them girly/wimpy/unmanly.
The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.
Wow... So you agree its impossible to be sexist towards men... Not sure if your just trolling or not... Are you dating the OP?@OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:
They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.
The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.
I found the solution. Replace all gear models with this for females.
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@OP: You're not going to have a constructive discussion about these outfits on here. Speaking to them like they should understand institutionalized sexism, objectification, and other basic feminist concepts will just end like it did here: a bunch of kids derailing. I mean, look at this:
They think their father is sexist towards men because he calls them women. They seriously brought that as evidence of sexism against men. They don't even see how that's sexist towards women. There's no way you'd be able to explain the difference between a man in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit and a woman in a video game wearing a skimpy outfit; they just wouldn't get it.
The level of mad in this thread is astounding, and it's not even from the OP. It's from all the people upset that someone dare say it's bad to objectify women. Hell, the OP has only made seven posts counting the thread-starter, yet this thing is 36 pages, most of which is slamming them.
actually by their father doing that it is an act of sexism which is defined as a oh f- this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
read the first paragraph.... that defines sexism and yes another man calling another man a woman or whatnot because they show emotions is sexist because of the stereotypical man being macho and butch and doesn't show ones feelings
also from there
Assertive women; for example, are called "bitches," whereas men who lack physical strength are seen as "wimps".
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