Press and player reactions to the new XIV

[bobbygunz]

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG that was funny as $h1t! XD

you keep telling yourself that

[Leonesaurus]

"It's disgusting that this heap of shite, along with XI, are even numbered editions of the main series.

I think I'm going to get my marker out tonight and change FFXII to XI, and FFXIII to XII and forget this sorry mess ever happened. "

Beware everyone, he has a marker and is not afraid to use it

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG that was funny as $h1t! XD

you keep telling yourself that

[Hycinthus]

The argument can be made, as several have posted, that this teaser trailer was released because 1) they're still in alpha and they can't be showing monsters still floating in the air, or 2)this trailer is only aimed at the current players and not at new ones. And so on.

But what you have to realize, is that the regular laypeople, casual customer out there, don't care about the innerworkings of SE. They are customers, and they just say, "Sell it to me. Convince me. Where is it?". No wonder the CGI trailer received negative comments from all gaming websites, even international ones. Ever since September 2010, no one has heard anything, and the first thing presented to them, from a failed MMO, was a fully CGI trailer? Whew, I am so glad they did not show that at E3. But in any case, that was a bad move. They should've released that trailer later in August when it can be accompanied by more stuff, more juicy contents, and not by itself. Don't get me wrong, the trailer could be good, but not released by itself, in the middle of summer. All it's doing now is just generating more bad publicity.

Like many have said, a friend of mine saw the trailer on IGN, it was on their front page, and he said, "So is it an expansion? Did they fix the UI btw?". People are still uninformed about this. The trailer should've been accompanied by a massive barrages of new screenshots, gameplay footage, Yoshida interviews, offers of free trial period, offers of facebook mini-event that will reward in-game rewards, demos, real-life collectible items, EVERYTHING. Like, pull out ALL the stops. Every single thing at once. Go announce that FF14 2.0 will be launched into space, and people can hunt using GPS to get free copies, like Mass Effect 3 did. Like that. In any case, now the CGI trailer has been prematurely released, Every stop has to be pulled in August.

[Nero]

Forget trailers(CGI or in-game footage), screenshots, etc..

You know what will save this game??
Game reviews!

You got a point there.. but there is a big problem coming along with Game Reviews.

Most Game-Reviews have being made by stupid, ignorant people which play Games for a couple hours and think they know anything about a Game. They mix subjectivity with objectivity, they are not able to let their personal feeling fade away, to make a "good" review. Good has nothing to do with praising the game, more with the fact that you stay objective and go into Detail on certain things, which are people are interested in.

Most reviews i've read about this Game were far away from being true. They were full of personal opinions, filled up with arrogance, stupidity and nonsense.

Yeah, reviews can give this game a big boost, but you need good writer for that, not a bunch of school-kids which dont have a clue what they are talking about.

[Hycinthus]

You got a point there.. but there is a big problem coming along with Game Reviews.

Most Game-Reviews have being made by stupid, ignorant people which play Games for a couple hours and think they know anything about a Game. They mix subjectivity with objectivity, they are not able to let their personal feeling fade away, to make a "good" review. Good has nothing to do with praising the game, more with the fact that you stay objective and go into Detail on certain things, which are people are interested in.

Most reviews i've read about this Game were far away from being true. They were full of personal opinions, filled up with arrogance, stupidity and nonsense.

Yeah, reviews can give this game a big boost, but you need good writer for that, not a bunch of school-kids which dont have a clue what they are talking about.

This is why SE cannot be shy in their advertising, especially with Guild Wars2 knocking on people's front door. This is their second, and last chance. Most MMOs do not get a second chance like this, and part of the reason why SE is able to, is because the larger playerbase is in PS3. And they are willing to give this game a try still.

This is their last chance. Just go all out, don't hold anything back. Put all silver, gold chocobos in there. Put Firaga XX and Meteor XXX in there.

[Seif]

You got a point there.. but there is a big problem coming along with Game Reviews.

Most Game-Reviews have being made by stupid, ignorant people which play Games for a couple hours and think they know anything about a Game. They mix subjectivity with objectivity, they are not able to let their personal feeling fade away, to make a "good" review. Good has nothing to do with praising the game, more with the fact that you stay objective and go into Detail on certain things, which are people are interested in.

Most reviews i've read about this Game were far away from being true. They were full of personal opinions, filled up with arrogance, stupidity and nonsense.

Yeah, reviews can give this game a big boost, but you need good writer for that, not a bunch of school-kids which dont have a clue what they are talking about.

You are making some wild generalisations here.
Sure some reviewers have their personal likes and disliles but discrediting most of them at once just seems like you are sort of afraid that 2.0 will still be bad and you have to feel your choice is valid and somehow justified by scoffing at the entire games press.

They're people after all and gamers like us. If majority of them love 2.0 then we can expect to see a lot more adventurers in Eorzea.

I'm looking forward to the new reviews and frankly SE needs that pressure to make a good game. At the end of the day I think SE's marketing has took a hit in credibility and that can only be turned around by improving the quality of the product.

As a personal note I've been working on videogames that the press sometimes loved to bits, didn't care for or didn't actually play before giving it a full page review but as a whole the press always gives great feedback that any game company really should listen. It makes us try harder and grow our skill in the craft. There are usually so many reviews that to argue against the general reception is not only stupid it's harmful attitude to take if you strive to do better in the future.

[Hycinthus]

You are making some wild generalisations here.
Sure some reviewers have their personal likes and disliles but discrediting most of them at once just seems like you are sort of afraid that 2.0 will still be bad and you have to feel your choice is valid and somehow justified by scoffing at the entire games press.

They're people after all and gamers like us. If majority of them love 2.0 then we can expect to see a lot more adventurers in Eorzea.

I'm looking forward to the new reviews and frankly SE needs that pressure to make a good game. At the end of the day I think SE's marketing has took a hit in credibility and that can only be turned around by improving the quality of the product.

As a personal note I've been working on videogames that the press sometimes loved to bits, didn't care for or didn't actually play before giving it a full page review but as a whole the press always gives great feedback that any game company really should listen. It makes us try harder and grow our skill in the craft. There are usually so many reviews that to argue against the general reception is not only stupid it's harmful attitude to take if you strive to do better in the future.

I agree. Also I would point out that FF14 failed not because of solely bad reviews. People actually bought the games, honestly gave it a try, and they quit because it was just not a good game. Before the markets were revamped, and you had to check every single retainer; that received bad reviews not because the reviewer is biased or subjective. That's because it's just bad.

[XxOstiaxX]

You got a point there.. but there is a big problem coming along with Game Reviews.

Most Game-Reviews have being made by stupid, ignorant people which play Games for a couple hours and think they know anything about a Game. They mix subjectivity with objectivity, they are not able to let their personal feeling fade away, to make a "good" review. Good has nothing to do with praising the game, more with the fact that you stay objective and go into Detail on certain things, which are people are interested in.

Most reviews i've read about this Game were far away from being true. They were full of personal opinions, filled up with arrogance, stupidity and nonsense.

Yeah, reviews can give this game a big boost, but you need good writer for that, not a bunch of school-kids which dont have a clue what they are talking about.

Oh please STFU! The people that review the game where about 90% Right! There was no low-mid level content, and that is still the case 2 damm full years LATER! The game was a grind fest from level 1 to level 50, the story quests where boring and to far in between, the market wards where a horrible idea, the dammed story line was not even finished <.<

Do tell me where they where wrong ?

[Nero]

Oh please STFU!

Eh, what kind of attitude is that? Let me guess.. you wrote Review's, right?

The people that review the game where about 90% Right!

Show me one of the 90% right reviews.

There was no low-mid level content, and that is still the case 2 damm full years LATER!

No low-mid level content? I see where this is going...

The game was a grind fest from level 1 to level 50, the story quests where boring and to far in between, the market wards where a horrible idea, the dammed story line was not even finished <.<

... yeah, i knew it. You are one of those people who write reviews and build it on top of your personal opinion. Learn what constructive means, then we talk again.

Do tell me where they where wrong ?

They were wrong as you were right now. Who are you, that you have the right to make decisions for other people,when you do nothing but screaming out your personal opinion?

I will give you an example:

Example 1 ( Bad Review ):

The leve's are stupid.

Example 2 ( Good Review ):

The leve-System allows you to explore the Area's either solo or in a Group up to 8 people. You can set difficulty from 1 Star to 5 Stars, which will increase the level of the Mobs. There is a Time-Limit on Leve's, which can be i.e. 10 Minutes for certain ones, or 30 Minutes for the common ones. The Leve's tend to vary between collecting Items, over killing a group's of mobs, to kill NM's which are similiar, but weaker, than the Openworld NM's i.e. Great Buffalo.

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I'm not a native english speaking person, so i'm sorry if i didnt write it 100% correct, but you should get what it means to be constructive and just "explain" certain Aspects of a Game and it Systems. Of course you also have to point out certain restrictions, as how leve's are limited to 99 at its max etc, but yeah you should get it anyways.

MOST of the Reviews, are just build on personal opinions like example 1.

[Zhinse]

If Yoshi is super smuggalicious confident, then i'm super smuggalicious confident.

Lets look how a recent game company that got good pre-launch confident. CAPCOM has launched 2 big titles so far this year with SFxT (which is in a similar boat as ffxiv ironic enough) and DRAGON'S DOGMA. SFxT got all the usual promotion that a video game would get when backed by a big company, posters at gamestop, some commercials, plenty of promotional trailers. Dragons Dogma got the same treatment and is more of an uphill climb since its a new franchise altogether (and an generic at first glance one too. ) First they announced their lofty target sales numbers which i dont believe they've hit for either game at this point, 1M for DD, 2M for SFxT. Such numbers denote much confidence in product which as a customer is what i would like to see. Second they're interacting more to the community with twitter, blog post (similar to our producer letters) and Live streams of the game.

The turning point for Dragon's Dogma was an OXM europe video preview of a british guy going "this game might've looked janky, but its actually sort of brilliant."(NOT A EXACT QUOTE.. XD) and actually going on to why. And what he said intrigued a lot of people. It sort of snowballed from there when capcom did their own part with their own livestreams and facebook promotions

The extra spice for sfxt is since its a fighting game, there's a whole streaming community that will almost advertise that shit for free. The key members of the Fighting game community did their part and got genuinely excited for the game and top level players were digging into prerelease versions and before street date copies. Hype spread like wildfire and capcom was on set to use the FGC for a final build of hype with their silly reality show. And that backfired completely, because the show was, boring as heck, didn't show of the game too favorably (too much sf4 players trying to play it like sf4), and had that whole sexist debacle that kotaku loves to ride. It is also safe to say the quality of the product wasn't good (even though i love that game).

I guess what i'm trying to say here is, to throw money away at stupid ARGs and other fluffly stuff like that is not the way to do it. They have to find their target audience and attack them, on facebook, on twitter, somehow and some way. When we come down to beta, they've said as much that they're hoping that the facebook community spreads good word. unfortunately, unlike the FGC, final fantasy fans are anything but unified. of course, the biggest marketing tool of all is quality of game, and quality of the first impression. build up as much hype as you want if this fails to live up, it'll just end up like SFxT and FFXIV.