Final fight too hard?

[Hyrist]

You're being quite rude and hostile, AmyNeudaiz. Not everyone can be as hardcore as you.
Leave the poor casuals alone!

This has nothing to do with being casual and everything to do with being bad at the game.

First try with a pickup group and we got Nael down to his 2hr move. We only wiped due to not having our ranged properly distrubted on the bottom.

We had connection problems after that which prevented success in the other two runs.

But a pick up group getting him within a sliver of life at the very end is not a hard fight. I'm sorry that you don't like the time limit on getting this accomplish, but this is what you signed up for. There's a time limit to getting this content done, always has been. There's no integrity in making the climax of this entire era any easier than it already is.

For those of you that complain that you work. Please, tell me how taxing it is for you to sit at a computer and press buttons. I work two jobs, seven days a week, and I still set aside the time to get things done. Why? Because I deem it important enough to.

Getting entry into this fight is easy, sit and listen for a shout, and the shouts are frequent. Volunteer and go, any job can participate and the fight works very well with a varied set up.

There is no excuse here that's valid unless you absolutely cannot play. Get it done.

[yoshikwalla]

Sorry to slightly necro-post. Earlier I said I was tired out from failing at the final fight, and I was.

This was my first time fighting a boss like this on an MMO. I never played Final Fantasy XI and usually, MMORPGs tend to make boss fights easy without good gear and even easier with good gear. Difficulty doesn't factor in games like AION and World of Warcraft - all that matters is gear and time played.

This was my first time fighting a boss like this and my GOD it was hard. But after finally defeating him after three days of trying, I never felt happier. I never felt this before - the feeling of accomplishment after a myriad of failure. I felt like a hero, an adventurer - and my hard work was finally put into fruition.

However, the first time WAS frustrating and I did feel like I was going to give up a lot of times. This was a large difficulty spike - more difficult by a longshot. Even United We Stand was more about strategy and survival than actual fighting. This was my first actual fight - and it was even harder than Garuda.

The fact is, I was angry because I was completely caught off-guard from the difficulty spike. The quests that I did earlier were designed to be easy because they followed the ideas pre-Yoshi-P. Now that I've seen a fight post-Yoshi-P, I can't say I was disappointed. More frustrated at how I wasn't able to hone my skills so that I could have a bearing when I entered that floating island.

But now I'm looking forward to 2.0. They can get rid of that teeth-grinding frustration by creating a difficulty curve - something this game does NOT have right now and desperately needs. Something most MMOs don't have, unfortunately. Perhaps then the frustration can be replaced by fun, challenge and all.

[AmyNeudaiz]

This has nothing to do with being casual and everything to do with being bad at the game.

First try with a pickup group and we got Nael down to his 2hr move. We only wiped due to not having our ranged properly distrubted on the bottom.

We had connection problems after that which prevented success in the other two runs.

But a pick up group getting him within a sliver of life at the very end is not a hard fight. I'm sorry that you don't like the time limit on getting this accomplish, but this is what you signed up for. There's a time limit to getting this content done, always has been. There's no integrity in making the climax of this entire era any easier than it already is.

For those of you that complain that you work. Please, tell me how taxing it is for you to sit at a computer and press buttons. I work two jobs, seven days a week, and I still set aside the time to get things done. Why? Because I deem it important enough to.

Getting entry into this fight is easy, sit and listen for a shout, and the shouts are frequent. Volunteer and go, any job can participate and the fight works very well with a varied set up.

There is no excuse here that's valid unless you absolutely cannot play. Get it done.

Don't reply to neo he's just a reddit troll.

[SuzakuCMX]

I beat it tonight.

It was hard the first few times but once we got the strategy down, it was pretty easy. Here are some tips.

>>Have your main tank keep the boss on one of the spires, and have all the ranged DDs stand on the outer curve of the circle. This keeps them out of the way for everything except meteors.
>>When he gets to near 50% on the first phase and 80% on the second phase, have one of your BLM run to the 2nd level to start taking care of meteors
>> Have two WHM. One WHM should focus on keeping the tank healed up ("Main Healer") and the other WHM focused on keeping buffs (Protect/Stoneskin) on melee and debuffs on Legatus (mostly just occasional Stone for Magic Evasion Down -- REALLY helps with the BLM damage)
>>The Bard needs to cast Ballad of the Magi on the mages and keep the accuracy song on the melees. This significantly improves the melees' ability to keep hate from Legatus as they will land their spells and attacks much more often.
>>During Phase 3 (AKA around 10% of his HP) when he begin to call down the meteors, have your mages split up evenly on the two staircases. The melees should provoke the golems that spawn on their way up the staircase, as the golems will leash and "return to their territory" on the first floor. The mages should be split between the 2nd floor platforms to take care of meteors on both sides and should not have to move (so they can regen MP). The Bard should go with the BLM that was continuing to nuke Legatus, as the other BLM should have near full MP. WHM need to have Cleric Stance on and be casting out Stone/Aero on meteors that are falling. If the golems catch aggro on the mages, have the WHM cast Repose (as BLM can take out 1-2 meteors solo while WHM can't).
>>Party set-up should be something similar to 1 Tank, 1 DPS/Secondary Tank, 2 WHM, 1 BRD, 2 BLM, varied 8th. This makes it easy to maintain aggro and keep him in an area that keeps most everyone safe, while everyone should be full HP most of the fight.
>>During phase 3, after the melees leash the golems, they need to go to the top platform where Legatus is to start beating him down. This is because Legatus begins to regenerate HP and the melees don't really have anything else to do, so constantly damaging him makes sure he doesn't regain too much HP to be annoying.

Besides that, it's really just learning the positioning in the battle. There is a spot you can stack all the mages on, if the tank has Legatus positioned correctly, where the ranged will not have to move at all unless the Bard needs to step forward to cast Accuracy song or if you need to go up the stairs to kill meteors, nor will they get hit by any techniques. There's a spot the tank can stand on where he won't get pushed back very far from the weird swingy move and he can easily strafe to the left to avoid LAZER BEAM. The melees will also only have to take a few steps to avoid HP/MP Siphon.

Well anyways. Good luck!

EDIT: Also I think it could be a bit harder. United We Stand is harder because of how hectic that fight is. This fight is actually incredibly easy once you understand the strategy (we only had one person die when we "figured it out" [read: another LS member hopped on Mumble and told us what to do] because the BRD accidentally stepped too far when walking back from Accuracy song) and the only time we came close to wiping was when Megaflare hit, but a quick Benediction + Battle Voice got everyone back to full easily.
EDIT2: United We Stand is also much more frustrating/tedious to get to because of the stupid gate timers in CN >.<

[Leo_Hart]

strategy already there..... ppl just not learning, lolplayer

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[Spy]

Huh. Somebody's in for a rude awakening.

You mean...Somebody's in for garudawakening.


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I'm sorry >.>; I couldn't help myself...

[Decconi]

Happy to say that we finally beat this tonight. Posted the video on Youtube. Just raw footage. Was a very fun achievement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w6oIio_F2s

[Alkimi]

This was my first actual fight - and it was even harder than Garuda.

Gonna assume you mean the lvl 45 Garuda. Taming the Tempest is in a different league to this fight really.

[Andrien]

I do agree that the difficulty is high, but once you get the strategy down it is not impossible.
I got really close to winning once, but megaflare wiped us.

The real difficult part is gathering people that still needs the fight.

[Majidah]

hard? are you kidding me?
this fight is really fun, challenging, but hard? not at all.

-run behind him when he does his rush attack to avoid rush + explosions (where he's going to stand is marked by an aura, if you are on the opposite side just stay on the side).
-don't be out of range if pull hate or you get one shotted.
-have one blm killing the meteors on phase 1.
-have two killing them during phase 2.
-have 4 ranged killing them during phase 2 after the golems spawn.
-have the whms sleep the golems.
-a mnk can solo the golems one by one.
-finish off the white raven.
-stop whining.

People need to stop thinking casual players are retards.
This fight has nothing to do with having the best gear in the game.