Primal battles in 2.0

[Elexia]

this has never been confirmed it has been only PLAYERS who keep saying this is going to happen

yet by the sounds of it both may exist seperately

Which part was never confirmed? Because it was confirmed by yoshida that they will be changing and there will be roaming primals. Hell he even used Ifrit in the latest example of roaming primals, we already knew about Odin being the roaming one.

[TheVedis]

Which part was never confirmed? Because it was confirmed by yoshida that they will be changing and there will be roaming primals. Hell he even used Ifrit in the latest example of roaming primals, we already knew about Odin being the roaming one.

he said "things will be changing" and "roaming primals will be added"

he never specificaly named primal battles as being changed/removed etc etc

[Babydoll]

there is no source, you know things pretty well usualy much as i do, and its been said no where that primals will be removed to make room for roamding versions, its always sounded like both may xo exist

Oh okay..I figured lol. Just a bunch of speculation then. I believe they said around when 1.23 is released they will say what will be disappearing when 2.0 comes out, hopefully we will finally have official word then I just wish some folks would stop stating things as if it is 100% set in stone, when there is no source...just mere speculation. >_<

[TheVedis]

Oh okay..I figured lol. Just a bunch of speculation then. I believe they said around when 1.23 is released they will say what will be disappearing when 2.0 comes out, hopefully we will finally have official word then I just wish some folks would stop stating things as if it is 100% set in stone, when there is no source...just mere speculation. >_<

we will have an official list of stuff being removed in the next month or so i think(we were told its coming), if its on there so be it, but til then, yep, pure speculation

[Nikita]

Here is what we know from an interview from Japan Expo:

[Someone's voice] : You said that the primal will only be summonable by Free Companies. Will they be roaming all over the map when they reappear? Will they always respawn at the same place, or will they respawn anywhere?

Yoshida : Anywhere, you can find it anywhere.

[Someone's voice] : It's better that way, else, a huge Free Company will always be keeping the primal.

Yoshida : It will not happen. You need to be lucky to meet the primal. You need the luck the primal first, and then you need the power to defeat it. As long as you have those two, it'll be yours.

[Someone's voice] : And then, will the battle happen on the world map, or will it be instanced?

Yoshida : It will be instanced.

Not much, but its something!

[indira]

Yep. They'll be set up as roaming NMs which takes you into an instance (which defeats the purpose of making them roaming...)

like the old school JRPG's random battles

[MariyaShidou]

he said "things will be changing" and "roaming primals will be added"

he never specificaly named primal battles as being changed/removed etc etc

To add to this, the only "roaming Primal" partially "confirmed" is only Odin, which is not available in pre 2.0. In addition, there will be multiple difficulty of Primal fight (Easy, Hard, Extreme) and it will not be possible to have this without instanced (Oh hey Easy Ifrit spawn next to Extreme Ifrit, how do we kill Easy?) and it doesn't even make sense of having multiple Ifrit roaming the open world.

[Jynx]

Afraid not, Jynx's on Aegis.

Fixed that one for you.

[Elexia]

To add to this, the only "roaming Primal" partially "confirmed" is only Odin, which is not available in pre 2.0. In addition, there will be multiple difficulty of Primal fight (Easy, Hard, Extreme) and it will not be possible to have this without instanced (Oh hey Easy Ifrit spawn next to Extreme Ifrit, how do we kill Easy?) and it doesn't even make sense of having multiple Ifrit roaming the open world.

So Ifrit and Garuda are no longer primals? We know Free Companies can summon Primals if they defeat them and gain their card and in order to do so they must claim them in the overworld...i.e roaming.

I don't know if you played FFXI or not but multiple versions can exist. Multiple ways of encountering them is more than possible. Ifrit Extreme itself is already different quest compared to Ifrit hard and guess what? It exists at the same time as Ifrit it Bleeds...amazing. So unless Yoshida is talking about new primals and Odin only, I'm pretty sure the thing that's being purposefully left out is the fact Garuda and Ifrit are primals too. Another thing that is easily forgotten, is the easy/hard versions have 7th Umbral Era ties. as in it's intertwined into the storyline that will go away come 2.0

So there's more than enough evidence and reasoning as to why Yoshida said the fights in this form will go away in 2.0 and what was confirmed thus far is they'll be roaming, then we know Ifrit X will remain as that's unrelated to the 7UE for the most part. So we know the instances in regards to the Relic Quest will remain which simply means there will 2 versions of Garuda and 2 version of Ifrit.

[TheVedis]

So Ifrit and Garuda are no longer primals? We know Free Companies can summon Primals if they defeat them and gain their card and in order to do so they must claim them in the overworld...i.e roaming.

I don't know if you played FFXI or not but multiple versions can exist. Multiple ways of encountering them is more than possible. Ifrit Extreme itself is already different quest compared to Ifrit hard and guess what? It exists at the same time as Ifrit it Bleeds...amazing. So unless Yoshida is talking about new primals and Odin only, I'm pretty sure the thing that's being purposefully left out is the fact Garuda and Ifrit are primals too. Another thing that is easily forgotten, is the easy/hard versions have 7th Umbral Era ties. as in it's intertwined into the storyline that will go away come 2.0

So there's more than enough evidence and reasoning as to why Yoshida said the fights in this form will go away in 2.0 and what was confirmed thus far is they'll be roaming, then we know Ifrit X will remain as that's unrelated to the 7UE for the most part. So we know the instances in regards to the Relic Quest will remain which simply means there will 2 versions of Garuda and 2 version of Ifrit.

you are STILL taking things out of context, no where did he say primals are going away

when he said things will change, he wasnt even refering directly to primals themselves

and as you said, its possible for multiple versions to exist, so again, why cant it be possible for the instance endgame fight, AND the free company instance fight exist? there is no reason at all

you are backing up the opinion you have, with no proof at all for its accuracy and now that youve backed yourself into a corner and people have pretty much proven all you are spouting off is "heresay" and rumor, and not fact at all, your fighting for people to just believe you.


when we have proof, we will have it, til then, its a rumor, and in no way shape or form a sure thing to happen the way you "think" it will

when we have proof, then we will have proof one way or another