<Players Abusing the chocobo Escort missions>

[Jinko]

I have reported the issue to GM's which i learned that they do not handle such issues.

Makes you laugh really doesn't it, GM's in the game are as much use a wet blanket.

They need to have it so that if someone is inactive the whole fight they are disqualified at the end, or make it based on contribution (this can go horribly wrong though if not done properly).

Personally I would suggest making each caravan and behest create a new instance for every 8 people who sign up, you could even have an auto group feature prior to the event starting, this really doesn't give us much faith in 2.0 if they can't even get this right in 1.x

[Maxthunder]

Makes you laugh really doesn't it, GM's in the game are as much use a wet blanket.

They need to have it so that if someone is inactive the whole fight they are disqualified at the end, or make it based on contribution (this can go horribly wrong though if not done properly).

Personally I would suggest making each caravan and behest create a new instance for every 8 people who sign up, you could even have an auto group feature prior to the event starting, this really doesn't give us much faith in 2.0 if they can't even get this right in 1.x

I am sorry but we already have enough crap thats instanced content. We really dont need anymore instanced content. They can solve this issue another way instead of making escorts instanced.

[Hiruke]

I am sorry but we already have enough crap thats instanced content. We really dont need anymore instanced content. They can solve this issue another way instead of making escorts instanced.

Really? Then what's your idea? If your suggestion is "that's stupid we can do better", clearly neither of those are true. Do you have anything substantial on offer?

There's no particular reason why Behest and Caravan aren't set up the same way as LQs. The fact that SE made Caravan highly desirable, despite the fact that only 24 people on a server can do it at the same time, is incredibly short-sighted. Unless their master plan is to encourage players to grief each other, I'm sure I could think of far more negative ways to describe the absolutely horrible design choices that went into designing Behest and Caravan as they stand now.

You want xp from Caravan? Too bad; I hope everyone in the Caravan is in the same PT! Folks will regularly snipe spots and get claim on mobs first to prevent you from getting xp/drops (of no consequence if you're already 50, but you can get a lot of xp while doing Caravan if you're not already 50, in addition to other stuff).

You want to be assured everyone is going to participate, and want a method to expunge them if not? NOPE! They can just sit at the end and wait for you stupid lot to do the work for them. Yay!

I could go on, but if you can't comprehend the system is hideously broken, what I'm typing probably looks like 209483209843 2034u23k4lj 2kjlhsad;klw aeo;982 340982 3048923

[Maxthunder]

Really? Then what's your idea? If your suggestion is "that's stupid we can do better", clearly neither of those are true. Do you have anything substantial on offer?

There's no particular reason why Behest and Caravan aren't set up the same way as LQs. The fact that SE made Caravan highly desirable, despite the fact that only 24 people on a server can do it at the same time, is incredibly short-sighted. Unless their master plan is to encourage players to grief each other, I'm sure I could think of far more negative ways to describe the absolutely horrible design choices that went into designing Behest and Caravan as they stand now.

You want xp from Caravan? Too bad; I hope everyone in the Caravan is in the same PT! Folks will regularly snipe spots and get claim on mobs first to prevent you from getting xp/drops (of no consequence if you're already 50, but you can get a lot of xp while doing Caravan if you're not already 50, in addition to other stuff).

You want to be assured everyone is going to participate, and want a method to expunge them if not? NOPE! They can just sit at the end and wait for you stupid lot to do the work for them. Yay!

I could go on, but if you can't comprehend the system is hideously broken, what I'm typing probably looks like 209483209843 2034u23k4lj 2kjlhsad;klw aeo;982 340982 3048923

Best suggestion some1 already said and that is on a lvl 45 escort the restriction to join should be 3 plus members. If you want everything instanced than this game isnt for you. There is no reason for every damn piece of content to become instanced at all. Now some of you dont like competition, thats understandable but again there is no reason what so ever to instance escorts.


Now dont forget players except maybe a few rarely did escorts before due to the amount of seals. Leave escorts open world with restrictions, as some1 else already stated increase the amount of escorts that can be done. Again there are other options instead of making everything instanced, just because players dont post every idea dosent mean there isnt any. I am not gonna sit here and type every idea I have on this it is not my job, that is up to the DEVS. I am merely giving feed back or my opinion on the subject, so there is no need to get bent out of shape.

One finally thought: are players that impatient or cant they go do other things until that escort is free?

[Aleksandr]

...One finally thought: are players that impatient or cant they go do other things until that escort is free?

Lets just say there are only 1000 people per sever at a time. Lets say half of them want to do a Caravan run. 500 into the 24 slots is 21 (I rounded up) people per slot.

Now the purpose of a MMO is being able to log on and play Do the things I want to do. The purpose of a MMO is not when new content comes out I have to wait a week, month, or three months to be able to exprince it. I do not believe the purpose of a (good) MMO is for me to change my life to experince the features I am paying for. I am realtively active and am paying to play the parts of the game I like (in theory). In reality I am paying to wait for people to grow bored with the content I want to play so I can play it last.

tldr;
This is not social content I am in a pick up group with people who may not even play. It is play something else until the server gets bored of it content. That is why I endorse an instance for this. So I can play with people I like (or strangers nearby as it takes more than two people to complete anyway).

[Maxthunder]

Lets just say there are only 1000 people per sever at a time. Lets say half of them want to do a Caravan run. 500 into the 24 slots is 21 (I rounded up) people per slot.

Now the purpose of a MMO is being able to log on and play Do the things I want to do. The purpose of a MMO is not when new content comes out I have to wait a week, month, or three months to be able to exprince it. I do not believe the purpose of a (good) MMO is for me to change my life to experince the features I am paying for. I am realtively active and am paying to play the parts of the game I like (in theory). In reality I am paying to wait for people to grow bored with the content I want to play so I can play it last.

tldr;
This is not social content I am in a pick up group with people who may not even play. It is play something else until the server gets bored of it content. That is why I endorse an instance for this. So I can play with people I like (or strangers nearby as it takes more than two people to complete anyway).

It seems players need to realize there are other ways to make seal, every1 dont have to do escorts. Also players need not wait till the last min to decide "OH DAMN I HAVE NO SEAL". I myself am alsways capped or close to cap on seals. I dont wait to the last min and than realize im gonna need seals. Now instead of doing escorts you can do leves, run tot rak, and do grand company supplies for seals. The issue at hand is everyone WANTS THERE SEALS NOW!!! This attitude needs to go away it dosent help anyone it will only bring more issues. Now for those of you that suggest make it instanced guess what now you will have a cool down timer so instances would be open for other groups. So in the end you gain being able to do escorts in an instance but you lose being able to start a new one right after finishing your last.

[Aleksandr]

It seems players need to realize there are other ways to make seal, every1 dont have to do escorts. Also players need not wait till the last min to decide "OH DAMN I HAVE NO SEAL". I myself am alsways capped or close to cap on seals. I dont wait to the last min and than realize im gonna need seals. Now instead of doing escorts you can do leves, run tot rak, and do grand company supplies for seals. The issue at hand is everyone WANTS THERE SEALS NOW!!! This attitude needs to go away it dosent help anyone it will only bring more issues. Now for those of you that suggest make it instanced guess what now you will have a cool down timer so instances would be open for other groups. So in the end you gain being able to do escorts in an instance but you lose being able to start a new one right after finishing your last.

So your logic is instances are bad so I should run tot rak an instance?

We should have pick up play so I should do solo activies (such as crafting) or an instance which is not as friendly as just inviting people who come along?

I should level a craft high enough to make items for seals?

The main thing I am hearing is this: Instead of doing what I want to do in my free time I should instead do something else until everyone else is done with it. After all Squre-Enix releases content not to play once it is released and new, but for people to play a few months later.

I did not know that wanting to do the new quest and rank up was playing wrong.

[Jinko]

Best suggestion some1 already said and that is on a lvl 45 escort the restriction to join should be 3 plus members. If you want everything instanced than this game isnt for you. There is no reason for every damn piece of content to become instanced at all. Now some of you dont like competition, thats understandable but again there is no reason what so ever to instance escorts.


Now dont forget players except maybe a few rarely did escorts before due to the amount of seals. Leave escorts open world with restrictions, as some1 else already stated increase the amount of escorts that can be done. Again there are other options instead of making everything instanced, just because players dont post every idea dosent mean there isnt any. I am not gonna sit here and type every idea I have on this it is not my job, that is up to the DEVS. I am merely giving feed back or my opinion on the subject, so there is no need to get bent out of shape.

One finally thought: are players that impatient or cant they go do other things until that escort is free?

When I say instanced I mean phased, similar to how leves are done, that is still an instance but it happens in the world, where your own mobs are spawned, SE can program it so that only monsters and chocobos on your version appear to the player/party but then people will complain that other players are attacking invisible monsters.

Saying that having it full instanced wouldn't be such a bad thing either, MMO's have been relying on instances for years now because its the best way to do "certain" content, get your head out of your ass and think about other players for once and not yourself. :P

I don't see how making content which is massively exclusionary and incites players to grief each other can possibly be seen as a good thing.

I am not gonna sit here and type every idea I have on this it is not my job, that is up to the DEVS.

Nice way to help the dev team and give feedback on idea's they may not have come up with, so you mean to say all you do is come here to disagree and argue with people and don't give feedback, you are the reason these forums are in the state they are in. lol

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I do not think making it instanced content like Dungeons is a good idea. This is another way of saying one will only play with people they know, and avoid dealing with 'strangers'. I think it is nice that there is SOME content that can be done with complete strangers and still have a high chance of success.

I only want to do Caravan with people I know anyway, more to the point in 2.0 we are getting content finder which will encourage and throw together groups of people who don't know each other.

Your point is moot.

On top of that if you read my previous post I mentioned if they make it instance it should have a queueing system active allowing players to auto group before the content starts, this alone means people who don't know each other will be forced to play with each other.

I'm also not sure making it 'mandatory party first' is a good idea, as people will then have to build a party (and most likely 8/8) first and then go to the caravan point. This makes it more challenging for someone who just wants to do a couple of runs in their free time. This content is meant to be open world drop-in-drop-out easy-peasy content. Nothing as serious as Primals or Dungeons.

I agree with this it shouldn't require a full party to proceed, more like auto group the nearest players in teh queue and wait 2-3 mins before starting, similar to how behest takes a while to start to allow players to group up, but the system would automatically do this.