Regarding the legacy campaign announcement- New deadline?

[Jekyll]

I understand that there was an announcement on the front page, I really do. However, announcing one thing does not mean those conditions cannot be changed. The bottom line is that the new announcement is confusing, because terms for an agreement can change, especially if it favors the paying party. Also, the May 31st announcement is no longer on the front page. This will confuse new people even more. There needs to be better clarification on this.

The new announcement is not confusing, it's explaining the 90 day option to those that were already registered. Not everyone registered before May 31 has been billed necessarily, could be someone who left before the start of billing in Nov/Dec 2011, so the 90 days is the only option for those people to qualify. They just wanted to make them aware that it is going away and to take advantage of it now if they needed it. Nothing changed regarding the deadline.

[Saryn]

Technically, no, the 90 day option is not the only possible option if the person registered in May. If the 2.0 beta begins in early October (as I have read in a number of places, these forums included), then there is no need to announce that the billing is going to change on how it can affect eligibility for the program. There are over 90 days from the end of June, until the beginning of October. To say that not registering for the 90 day time period will cause you to miss on legacy would infer that the beta might start before October (which I suppose is possible). The beta starting in September would be the only way that the announcement would make sense.

Additionally, this still doesn't explain the poor use of wording. The phrase "as of" can be taken in a couple of ways... the most common of which is a start date moving forward, such as my previous example. Regardless, I am not going to cry about losing Legacy... I will still have my Goobbue mount, and that's "Legacy" enough for me. Five bucks a month won't break my bank.

[Mirage]

It's not that bad anyway. The way it looks now, you'll still get one character on up to 8 servers for the basic service fee which is just one dollar more than the legacy service fee. Of course, legacy members get 8 per server, but then again, they also had to deal with a game that was released in a terrible state.

If you want even more, the service plan with 8 characters per servers, up to 40 characters total, seems like it's going to cost 12.99. This pricing is competitive with most other MMOs on the market today, so I don't think we have much to complain about when it comes to subscription fees.

Bottom line is, even without legacy campaign, you still get more characters for your 11 bucks basic service in FF14 than you did for 13 bucks in FF11. The "new" service plans are also much better than the initial FF14 plans, which were something like 12 dollars for *one* character, and 3 dollars extra for each additional character.

[Norack]

lol really?

I agree lol, been reading this just for giggles. 60 + 30 = 90? i never knew!

[FelixTrapper]

The problem I have with this is the wording. The way it reads indicates that anyone who bought the game during, or after, May and registered for 90 days before June 30th will be eligible. It says "as of", which can also be used as,

"As of July 1st, the 90 day subscription option will no longer be available".

Furthermore, it says nothing about paying for the 90 days before July. The announcement only mentions registration. Last I checked, registration does not necessitate payment. Now I am not sure if they are changing their deadline, or what exactly is happening, but I will be reading through this thread to see if there is any more clarification. All-in-all, this might be very disappointing for some people.

I agree with you about the wording and I already mentioned it earlier in this topic, and I think the same guy responded to me as well. Some people just get one idea in their mind and are unable to see it through the eyes of another, unfortunately. Where I grew up, the phrase 'as of' pretty much exclusively meant "on or after"

"personal checks written as of May 31, 2012, will no longer be accepted"
"Students registering for classes as of May 31, 2012, will require permission from the course instructor."
etc.

[Aklag]

Actually no. Some people can still qualify for them. Returning players bought the game way before may 31s but never paid for subscription could still reactivate and get a 90 day sub and get legacy status.

Ok, then they should warn new customers about the May 31st deadline ON THAT PAGE. There were a few of us that read that page and took what it said to be true. The fact is, that the Legacy Campaign details page contains detailed information that contradicts the May 31st registration deadline.

This page states very clearly that ANYONE that pays for 90 days between January 6th, 2012 and beginning of beta, is eligible. NOTHING on this page mentions, or even links to, any content stating the May 31st deadline. Some of us came to the main page, saw the Legacy banner, clicked it, and decided that we would start now, instead of waiting for 2.0. Only after purchasing the game did we find out that the information on the actual Legacy Campaign page itself is wrong.

[Jekyll]

Definitely not wrong, however I do understand that the information is not there due to new updates on the front page of The Lodestone. Did you buy the game only to get Legacy status? If so I think you're doing it wrong.

[FelixTrapper]

Aklag, again, I agree 100%, in fact that's what lead to my initial confusion. I saw THAT page first. On THAT page, it clearly states that I am eligible for legacy status. But on other pages, it provides additional qualifiers that can change your initial understanding.

It shouldn't be the customers' responsibility to synchronize all of Square Enix's sources so they convey one unilateral meaning.

But I also learned awhile back in this topic that reasoning with Jekyll was not worth my time.

[Jekyll]

Aklag, again, I agree 100%, in fact that's what lead to my initial confusion. I saw THAT page first. On THAT page, it clearly states that I am eligible for legacy status. But on other pages, it provides additional qualifiers that can change your initial understanding.

It shouldn't be the customers' responsibility to synchronize all of Square Enix's sources so they convey one unilateral meaning.

But I also learned awhile back in this topic that reasoning with Jekyll was not worth my time.

Because obviously its up to me to decide your Legacy status? Only reason I keep watching this topic is to help people understand that they won't be getting anything, or if they will, how they can make it happen. Unless SE changes the requirements ,it is what it is, so what's the point of complaining?
Again, if you just recently bought the game just to get a discount on a subscription, you're doing it wrong.

Someone will bring up the point: "Well, we bought it now to save money when 2.0 comes out."
If that's the case, you probably would've bought the game come 2.0 anyway, with or without Legacy status.

[FelixTrapper]

Because obviously its up to me to decide your Legacy status? Only reason I keep watching this topic is to help people understand that they won't be getting anything, or if they will, how they can make it happen. Unless SE changes the requirements it is what it is, so what's the point of complaining?

Well, my purpose is to hopefully persuade SE to update all portions of their site that talk about Legacy Status so they are in agreement with eachother. By doing that, they can prevent any future incidents where players buy the game under the false impression that they are eligible for legacy status, similar to Aklag's situation.

It's really a very basic concept. You log on to the site, you click that legacy link. It says if you sign up for 90 days before June 30, you get the discount. So you get excited and buy the game, and sign up for 90 days. Do you get the discount? No. Why? Because on different webpages, it says you had to have registered before May 31.

I don't care anymore that I'm not getting legacy--that's fine. Just be professional and have consistent information throughout your website.