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  1. #181
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    AsterBarnivere's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Right, but I think the debate is whether or not your presence in the echo affects events outside the echo.

    Say I use the Echo to view your past, and I eat your cake in the Echo. When we return to normal time, did I really eat your cake, or did you still eat it and events were never changed?
    But that depends, how far in "The Past" are you going in order to eat my cake? D:< I could be having cake the moment you walked in my mog house, and then you could've used the echo to eat it before I even take a bite out of it, and once I kick you out of my past for eating my cake, it'd still be gone.
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  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsterBarnivere View Post
    But that depends, how far in "The Past" are you going in order to eat my cake? D:< I could be having cake the moment you walked in my mog house, and then you could've used the echo to eat it before I even take a bite out of it, and once I kick you out of my past for eating my cake, it'd still be gone.
    Wrong.

    RNGnomics would decide whether he or you ate the cake.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Or Dalamud somehow attracts aether
    I don't want to spoil anything for you, but in the later grand company quests they say this directly, as it is why the crystals lose their aspects, and the monsters are larger recently. Are there any others out there who read that?
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by RolandDebreton View Post
    Except that according to a few NPCs at this point the Crystal Tower is an already extant location that has been under Mor Dhona for literally ages:

    (http://bandofthewhitehawk.enjin.com/...ower-mor-dhona ).

    In point of fact it is likely the the entrance will be a place that is visited in an Echo related cutscene by Limsa Lominsans. Or you can just go there if you have the gall. Its a place in Mor Dhona called the Tomb of Xande,
    The man say the thruth. If you read mnk's npc explanaitaion, the tower actually exist somehow below lake in mor dhona
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  5. #185
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    Yes, but that does not mean Dalamud can't bring it forth from below the lake. I really think this theory is plausible. Just imagine the possibilities of the top floor of the Crystal Tower being Dalamud. Current players will know the entire history of the formation of the Crystal Tower. I think that would be very cool.

    "I wonder how this tower got here"

    "We made it happen, by stopping the Empire in the 6th Astral Era."
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    Yes, but that does not mean Dalamud can't bring it forth from below the lake. I really think this theory is plausible. Just imagine the possibilities of the top floor of the Crystal Tower being Dalamud. Current players will know the entire history of the formation of the Crystal Tower. I think that would be very cool.

    "I wonder how this tower got here"

    "We made it happen, by stopping the Empire in the 6th Astral Era."
    Perhaps bringing forth the tower is what stops Dalamud from impact, but the massive amount of Aether radiating between the two rip and shatter the land. causeing wholesale changes from the chaotic fluxuations of aether


    Edit: Also if aether is a power of creation, perhaps it can make things grow at astounding speeds.
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    Last edited by Viritess; 06-22-2012 at 08:32 PM.

  7. #187
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    A final fantasy game with a crystal tower... nah that would never happen...
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  9. #189
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    More like this?
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  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by auritribe View Post


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    Wait...what if...

    The moon from Majora's Mask represents Dalamud and the Four Giants represent Goobbues. Skull Kid is Nael Van Darnus and the player is Link.

    ._.
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