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  1. #21
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    KoujiGeki's Avatar
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    casting shouldve only made you able to walk not be able to run. its been done in other mmos like EQOA. and in PVP all the melee jobs could catch up to the mages. and besides doing a duel you had to be for instance 6 yalms away from each other, if one person ran out of the circle that person would lose. Yoshi couldve done that and the mages could move but only walk while melee could be in distance everyone couldve won. but no, everyones attitude is Screw mages, no compromise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    If I can't move while casting, then a melee shouldn't be able to hit me either.
    You don't know how PvP and the lag is going to work in 2.0. As of now, yes mobs have retarded distance. But we don't know how it's going to work when lag isn't the deciding factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You don't know how PvP and the lag is going to work in 2.0. As of now, yes mobs have retarded distance. But we don't know how it's going to work when lag isn't the deciding factor.
    Lag is always the deciding factor in PvP. Its why Ihate pvp. 1 second of lag is all it takes for someone to appear on my screen and stun me then kill me. It happens in every game. No way in hell SE can change that.

    Thm/blm could be godly at pvp. I don't know, but if thunder/thunara combo wipes people out fast. Guess who be nerfed... again. The already badly gimped class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Lag is always the deciding factor in PvP. Its why Ihate pvp. 1 second of lag is all it takes for someone to appear on my screen and stun me then kill me. It happens in every game. No way in hell SE can change that.

    Thm/blm could be godly at pvp. I don't know, but if thunder/thunara combo wipes people out fast. Guess who be nerfed... again. The already badly gimped class.
    Badly gimped?

    *Looks at speed runs of AV/CC and also the Garuda exploit*

    Please don't kid yourself lol. Black Mage and Thaumaturge are still very strong classes, especially when stacked. They aren't gimped in any way.
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    nukers are always glass cannons. there's always a trade off, you can't have everything, etc etc. I propose we finally have a game where there's no dumbass stuns in pvp. esp. stuns that rely only on luck.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Badly gimped?

    *Looks at speed runs of AV/CC and also the Garuda exploit*

    Please don't kid yourself lol. Black Mage and Thaumaturge are still very strong classes, especially when stacked. They aren't gimped in any way.
    It's only good with one spell combo every other ability sucks. It had good damage over time spells that were removed and readded to combo and are weak ass crap, and less effective after each use. If more than half of abilities of a job/class are useless that is very gimp to me.

    Your examples are of things that have a neutral resistants to lightning. Think of the mobs that will coming out that resist lightning, what good will a stack of blm/thm be when they are all spamming fire on a boss like ramuh or titan. They'll be out of MP fast, forcing them to stop more and what's that do? Waste time.

    Edit:

    We lost conal aoe, and toggle aoe. Those two things were amazing. We lost both of them. Second biggest nerf to thm, in my opinion. If Thunder line could be toggled to aoe, or fire line toggled to single target it may not be so bad, just need to up fire damage and ice damage.

    Being able to move and cast at the same time was cool, made me feel like I was actually an experienced caster. Now I am forced to stay in one spot if I want to to constant damage and restore MP like a real god damn magician. Look as I stand still and pull a bunny out of the hat cause moving will cancel the spell.

    All because of the Stupid pvps that can't have their own area with it's own set of rules. Where the current movement system and enfeeble system would work fine, it's should be in PvE areas.

    And since they gimped with movement cancel before pvp was even out, you know a nerf is coming to thundara combo when pvp actually come out. Because all you whining pvpers.
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    Last edited by Jinrya-Geki; 06-22-2012 at 05:23 AM.

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    It's a terrible change, and any justification can only be made with stupidity in the brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luna_Faerwicke View Post
    I have never formally voiced a complaint about anything in this game. But, I sincerely can't stand the "You cannot cast spells while moving" thing.
    It really, really bothers me. And yet I can cast a spell while not holding a weapon? But I can't cast while moving? .... What?

    I wish I had a more effective way of expressing my discontent with this. It is not something that I can adjust to although I have tried. Quite frankly, it takes away from the gaming experience.

    Please abolish this incredibly annoying affect!
    Well, I think a good compromise would be to be able to cast while walking, just not running.
    That way we'd get that message less frequently and still allow our character to re-position itself during battle.
    It won't be a problem for PVP since walking is quite slow and a charging melee character will be able to quickly close the gap.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    I can talk on my cellphone while playing monster hunter with a brokenish directional pad and still see where I am going. What the hell is so god damn difficult about walking and saying "Fira?" and concentrating?
    You're making an awful lot of assumptions about how spell casting would feel like if it was possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Thm/blm could be godly at pvp. I don't know, but if thunder/thunara combo wipes people out fast. Guess who be nerfed... again. The already badly gimped class.
    You must be playing another game because BLM is by far the most used job in FFXIV.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frein View Post
    You're making an awful lot of assumptions about how spell casting would feel like if it was possible.


    You must be playing another game because BLM is by far the most used job in FFXIV.
    And what game are you playing were casting 2 spells over and over again is fun? I am sorry I like variety?
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