Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[fusional]

the only thing i've learned from this thread is either that screenshot is shooped because 17min runs are impossible, or it's easy as hell and this is old news because anyone/everyone can do it. but which is it???

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(but seriously, gj and grats guys)

[Zezlar]

It's pretty clear that Aarkz guy is a scrub. He's dead in every screenshot.

[Aarkz]

I'm dead in screenshots too often.

[TheVedis]

Clear use of bots.

LOL.............

[Kiara]

confirmed 17mins speed run gives everyone in the party "Miser's Mythril"

Congratulations Luxanna and your LS!

Thanks for helping us confirm the JP Blog Info. Very helpful.

[Luxanna]

thank you Kiara,
i'm still looking for that guy - Darkillumina, char name: Konstantine Porphyrogenitos

[Darkillumina]

Congratulations on the run, I guess it's confirmed now.

I think a lot of the arguments here were a result of me perhaps not being clear. I think some of you guys thought I was trying to tell you how easy 17 minute runs were when in fact most of the time I was posting with regards to normal speed runs. My static goes for the safest and easiest way to get a regular speed run because we routinely bring in new people and having extra insurance works well when teaching people the ropes. Until now clearly, there wasn't any need to push for better times. The only thing I did talk about was killing miser quickly which is ALWAYS preferable due to safety concerns if slugs pop. Clearly if we're talking about straight <17 minute runs you need to cut out all the extraneous crap for efficiency.

Regardless, my apologies for my lack of clarity. I and the majority of the community still dislike speed runs but at least this is somewhat a step in the right direction. I still stand by my dislike of speed runs however as a placeholder for true difficulty. SE probably doesn't have a choice in the matter. 2.0 is fast approaching and they can't keep adding content for 1.0 so they are handcuffed by the current limitations.

As I have posted in some other threads I am all for relics but I think this point in time is a terrible time to implement them.

[Madruk]

Well really, 3 times to do a 17 min run isn't all that much to complain about. After that you can do it the easier way. My beef was having absolutely no control over the shitty RNG.

But I understand your point we're all sick of the repetitive bullshit.

[fusional]

Well really, 3 times to do a 17 min run isn't all that much to complain about. After that you can do it the easier way. My beef was having absolutely no control over the shitty RNG.

But I understand your point we're all sick of the repetitive bullshit.

yeah, this thing that madruk said ^

[Darkillumina]

I agree completely.