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    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    You cannot compare a game made back in 2002 with one from 2012, the technology jump is just too big.
    Also, Sqaure Soft developed the new engine AND server structure only for 2.0. I'm sure they learned from their past mistakes.
    I don't care if the technology is 2024. When things are done client-side, it opens a huge opportunity for programs to be written that read incoming data that playes aren't supposed to see, as well as manipulate outgoing data to exploit the game. This happens in any case where such data is handled client-side.

    The lesson to be learned is that you never leave gameplay critical functions or data on the client machine, because there are people who can and will exploit and abuse it to their own advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I don't care if the technology is 2024. When things are done client-side, it opens a huge opportunity for programs to be written that read incoming data that playes aren't supposed to see, as well as manipulate outgoing data to exploit the game. This happens in any case where such data is handled client-side.

    The lesson to be learned is that you never leave gameplay critical functions or data on the client machine, because there are people who can and will exploit and abuse it to their own advantage.
    And all this affects you, how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preypacer View Post
    I don't care if the technology is 2024. When things are done client-side, it opens a huge opportunity for programs to be written that read incoming data that playes aren't supposed to see, as well as manipulate outgoing data to exploit the game. This happens in any case where such data is handled client-side.

    The lesson to be learned is that you never leave gameplay critical functions or data on the client machine, because there are people who can and will exploit and abuse it to their own advantage.
    And some how that everything being on SE servers some how stopped all the RMT and Bots right? lol Doesnt matter if its Server Side or Client Sde you can still cheat and hack away. Somethings can be made client side, there is no reason to have everything server sided.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    sorry but a mayor exodus of people following the sirens call of "you will perform muuuuch better, for realz" would pretty much kill any server community and economy and by that very much affect me
    You know this for fact? Seems in this thread you're wrong because some people are against it like you. Infact the OP has 11 likes but Jynx who is against it has 55, but you some how confuse this to think everyone is Pro for this idea?

    /mindboggled.

    Also i had a giggle over the "kill any economy", that was funny.

    When lag is "hardly nothing" as people expect in 2.0, a lot of people wont move server just for a few milliseconds when they have a home on a server already. Where as others who want to go to more regional specific servers, have the choice. And new players will also.

    Stop denying stuff for silly reasons, even when the reasons totally go against you lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Stop denying stuff for silly reasons, even when the reasons totally go against you lol.
    nope i wont stop opposing silly stuff for valid reasons sorry^~^

    and if the lag is hardly noticeable in 2.0 it not only would people stop from wandering off to that regional servers

    it would make regional servers a gigantic waste of money and effort: server equipment, rented space for the server farm, maintenance personal, development personal on location and so on...

    pretty excessive for some choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    nope i wont stop opposing silly stuff for valid reasons sorry^~^

    and if the lag is hardly noticeable in 2.0 it not only would people stop from wandering off to that regional servers

    it would make regional servers a gigantic waste of money and effort: server equipment, rented space for the server farm, maintenance personal, development personal on location and so on...

    pretty excessive for some choice

    lol and do you think about money waste?? every big software house has regional servers (EA with SW, Blizzard WoW, Trion with Rift, and those are just some without mentioning f2p ) ... Why with a such important project like this (that already wasted a lot of money) can't we have STANDARD features like local servers, expecially if international servers will continue running ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonheart View Post
    lol and do you think about money waste?? every big software house has regional servers (EA with SW, Blizzard WoW, Trion with Rift, and those are just some without mentioning f2p ) ... Why with a such important project like this (that already wasted a lot of money) can't we have STANDARD features like local servers, expecially if international servers will continue running ?
    now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
    not one of them?
    that's what i thought

    but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
    not one of them?
    that's what i thought

    but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.

    Well you didnt answer mine reply (and btw thinking at the whole world econimically i think it's a bit more important than just 1 nation) .

    Why not welcome local servers for who wants them if international ones for ppl like you will still exist? Bah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
    not one of them?
    that's what i thought

    but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.
    So you're saying that EVERYBODY should at least have +300ms?
    Cool, can't wait to not get invited into parties because i'm european and die everytime because i was "standing in the fire".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_Hibiki View Post
    now tell me how many of those have a regional server in japan? ^~^
    not one of them?
    that's what i thought

    but im not here to argue, my vote is and will remain a big NO for regional servers and i already stated more than one reason.
    You are voting against those who want it though, why are denying those who want something even when it has minimal effect on you ?

    It's completely mind boggling that people like you exist.
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