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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Auto Attack =/= lazy. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure that 11111111111114enter....1111111111111114enter....1111111 is not healthy for any keyboard. It's not that I'm lazy, it's that continually pressing the same exact key, multiple times in rapid succession is 1) Unhealthy for the board 2) Extremely inefficient and 3) Completely unnecessary

    Bottom line, there is nothing about not wanting to break my keyboard that makes me lazy. Auto attack is coming. You can either stay and play or jump ship like everyone else.

    If your gamplay is 11111111 you are lazy. There's no other reason to spam a normal attack.

    Ninja EDIT: forgot to quote -.-'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    If your gamplay is 11111111 you are lazy. There's no other reason to spam a normal attack.

    Ninja EDIT: forgot to quote -.-'
    Wrong. Archer as well as the 2 mages get no use out of other attacks that aren't spells/tp moves in most party situations, outside of BRs. Also, spamming 1 is the equivalent of an autoattack, just less efficient.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Wrong. Archer as well as the 2 mages get no use out of other attacks that aren't spells/tp moves in most party situations, outside of BRs. Also, spamming 1 is the equivalent of an autoattack, just less efficient.
    The amount of fail in this post is staggering. Only the last sentence is even remotely true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The amount of fail in this post is staggering. Only the last sentence is even remotely true.
    So true, actually as Archer you have to use almost no normal attacks at all in order to be effective, Multishot and Trifurcate FTW.
    And if you spam normal attacks as a mage you clearely fail, you don't even have to care for the MP now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    So true, actually as Archer you have to use almost no normal attacks at all in order to be effective, Multishot and Trifurcate FTW.
    And if you spam normal attacks as a mage you clearely fail, you don't even have to care for the MP now...
    k...Spirit Dart = 37 dmg to Great Buffalo
    Thunder 2 = 38 dmg to great buffalo
    Fire 2 = 31 dmg to great buffalo
    Aero 2 = 42 dmg to great buffalo

    Spirit Dart does more DoT than any spell that I can throw at it outside of BRs and being buffed.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    k...Spirit Dart = 37 dmg to Great Buffalo
    Thunder 2 = 38 dmg to great buffalo
    Fire 2 = 31 dmg to great buffalo
    Aero 2 = 42 dmg to great buffalo

    Spirit Dart does more DoT than any spell that I can throw at it outside of BRs and being buffed.
    Well actually you shouldn't do nukes outside BR, why wasting MP when you know the dmg is gonna suck? Also the BR should be so quick you don't feel the need to nuke outside it. But it's much better to cast debuffs rather than spamming Spirit Dart, with the proper equip they always land and they are a great help.
    With Paralyze and Syphon TP the NM can barely move and they land fine even as a Conjurer; also elemental debuffs casted before BR gives a nice boost at the dmg of the nuke, so I can't see where you find the time to spam 1 1 1 1 1 o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    Well actually you shouldn't do nukes outside BR, why wasting MP when you know the dmg is gonna suck? Also the BR should be so quick you don't feel the need to nuke outside it. But it's much better to cast debuffs rather than spamming Spirit Dart, with the proper equip they always land and they are a great help.
    With Paralyze and Syphon TP the NM can barely move and they land fine even as a Conjurer; also elemental debuffs casted before BR gives a nice boost at the dmg of the nuke, so I can't see where you find the time to spam 1 1 1 1 1 o.O
    Notice the spells you listed. Also notice what job uses them. Now think about what job uses most debuffs. lol Not all Con have Thm at 50 or even high enough to get decent debuffs...and since there isn't a "standard," these Cons aren't going to be in any rush to get that other job leveled =) And while, yes, the elemental debuffs are nice, you aren't seriously going to sit there and keep every elemental debuff in your bar are you? Lol there is going to be a good 2-3mins where you are just spamming 1 at some point...
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    Last edited by Dubont; 04-06-2011 at 10:19 AM.
    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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