Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

[TheVedis]

People will complain they do not want to repeatedly content because it's boring. No one here that whines ever came up with proper solution.

and 1 persons solution is another persons problem, there is no real middle ground

[AdvancedWind]

The problem here is that it just isn't that easy to make something last longer without either

A - RNG
B - Ridiculous time limits
C - Highly repetitive requirements

I too would like things to be hard due to hard battles and similar stuff, but let's face it: If they don't put stuff like that, how else are they going to make something challenging, rare and time consuming? I agree that there's too much RNG going on, but the other alternatives aren't that much better in my opnion.

[Babydoll]

I knew a lot of people on XI...a LOT..cross server and what not mind you...and no one complained how hard relics were. I'm sure some did, they always do..but most all the people I spoke with were slowly working their way towards their relic and seemed pretty content. They knew they were at least making progress daily/weekly, etc. Heh..my bf and I practically duo'ed his relic for an entire year...we didn't complain at all. It was fun to have something to do and be making progress, we finished it too ^^

Mythic however..lol that one a lot of people complained about >.> The reasons (which many told me) was that SE claimed "relic type weapons for the casual gamer" haha um no, far from it! Mythic is still the most difficult one to get imho.

[Dzian]

People will complain they do not want to repeatedly content because it's boring. No one here that whines ever came up with proper solution.

true but I'd say knowing you have to repeat something like 50 times is a lot better and more tolerable than saying it may take 5 times or it may take infinite.....

[Hayden]

People will complain they do not want to repeatedly content because it's boring. No one here that whines ever came up with proper solution.

It's not our job to develop the game, it is theirs. We are offering suggestions and criticism based on what we do and do not consider a productive and entertaining use of our time. We are doing OUR job well.

[Nahaara]

Kind of fishy how threads like these keep popping up and yet we haven't gotten a response from the devs, it's almost as if they're deliberately ignoring threads on RNG or something.

[Chardrizard]

It's not our job to develop the game, it is theirs. We are offering suggestions and criticism based on what we do and do not consider a productive and entertaining use of our time. We are doing OUR job well.

Nobody here has over constructive suggestions, it's all whines really with a little bit exaggeration over on top.

[Biggs]

Kind of fishy how threads like these keep popping up and yet we haven't gotten a response from the devs, it's almost as if they're deliberately ignoring threads on RNG or something.

Is it a major complaint on the forums of the other nations?

[TheVedis]

It's not our job to develop the game, it is theirs. We are offering suggestions and criticism based on what we do and do not consider a productive and entertaining use of our time. We are doing OUR job well.

"give us a better drop rate rng sucks" is NOT doing your job well as a player giving feedback
and thats what 99% of the posts are, and the other 1% are the same exact thing hidden under a bunch of nonsense

[Velhart]

Did people complain this much about how hard it was to obtain relics in XI? I never got on the forums for those so I wouldn't know, but it seems like everyone in Xi just took how hard they were to get as fact.

I do remember though that when you saw someone with one, you gave them the nod and told your ls you were looking at one. Much like you do when you see a rare car or plane in RL. Thats what these are intended to be. NOT FOR EVERYONE. Stop thinking of these as AF weapons from xi, and start thinking of them as actual relic weapons would be my bet. As for the stats, they are good base stats as I am sure SE will make these upgradable as the level cap increases. Gut check time folks. Maybe SE doesn't want every tom dick and mithra to have one.

Most people acknowledged that to get relic weapons in FFXI was hard but fair. It was rewarded to the hard working and dedicated player. You had to gather currency in Dynamis (or buy it if you were mega rich), then fight certain NM's in Dynamis which were real hard themselves. This was making the content a long term progression based system, and difficult fights to add with it. It may have been hard, but it was a fair system, and you didn't see just anyone with the weapon.

In FFXIV however, it is given to the lucky one. Assuming you have a leprechaun under your shoe, you could get all 9 seals within the week when they are lv.2 Battle phase, make the weapon of choice and double meld it the first try, kill the NM requested, and get the items required from Mizer and Chimera. All of this can be done possibly in less than a week. What the next step on relics are is a mystery, but assuming you are lucky this can take less than a week to get through this procedure.

SE claims it takes hard work and dedication to get these weapons. So far that is halfway true. Yes it requires dedication, but hard work? Not true. It is tedious work and that is all.

In all fairness, it is not hard to get the Hamlet seals at all. Claiming it is too hard is a joke. My only concern is basing the process of getting your relic weapon through the RNG system is lazy and not creative at all.