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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I was gonna keep quiet, but this comment made me speak up. What exactly is the advantage of windows 8 over windows 7 on a desktop without a touchscreen? It's my understanding that W8 has huge advances in usability for tablet PCs, but what advantages does it have for non-tablet PCs?
    I don't know, that's why I made the comment. I've been told there are a lot of back-end (performance, resource management) improvements. Beyond that, I hadn't really heard much about win8 at all.

    the original design of Windows (1) worked for the time. windows 95 was a stripped down badly butchered NT (2), 98 was much better (3), ME was LOL (4), XP was the biggest improvement to windows in a long time (5), Vista was terrible (6) Windows 7 made it a lot better (7) and now Windows 8.... well, we'll see if it breaks the pattern.
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    I wouldn't call a game that crashes every time UAC wants something from you compatible. Lucky 2.0 should fix that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deatheye View Post
    I wouldn't call a game that crashes every time UAC wants something from you compatible. Lucky 2.0 should fix that.
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
    UAC crashes can be avoided by disabling the 'secure desktop" (called dimming the desktop in win7) which causes UAC prompts to appear on the normal desktop instead. The secure desktop makes real, official windows prompts and warnings easier to distinguish from fakes by placing them on the dimmed screen which only the OS can access. But largely because it's on by default, i've never seen or heard of any malware that makes fake UAC prompts appear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    so does windowed mode, fyi.
    fyi maybe people should stop talking about stuff and present it as facts when they never did it themself?
    IT does not. At least not on Windows 8 and that's what we are talking about.
    I'm running it in Windowed mode and it crashes with that stupod device lost error message everytime I try to run an executable.
    If you are talking about a third party windower, thats another topic and you should have specified that. I'm talking about the integrated function to run the game in windowed mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deatheye View Post
    fyi maybe people should stop talking about stuff and present it as facts when they never did it themself?
    IT does not. At least not on Windows 8 and that's what we are talking about.
    I'm running it in Windowed mode and it crashes with that stupod device lost error message everytime I try to run an executable.
    If you are talking about a third party windower, thats another topic and you should have specified that. I'm talking about the integrated function to run the game in windowed mode.
    Hmmm, I haven't had an issue like that in ages. Perhaps there's a rescource conflict with that executable you're trying to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    Hmmm, I haven't had an issue like that in ages. Perhaps there's a rescource conflict with that executable you're trying to run.
    Really? I'm having it everytime I download something and execute it. UAC brings up a blue bar asking for execution of the file and you cant use any other interface till you answer it. It's no problem with installed stuff.
    On windows 7 I deactivated UAC, but Windows 8 needs it activated or a lot of stuff doesn't work anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I don't know, that's why I made the comment. I've been told there are a lot of back-end (performance, resource management) improvements. Beyond that, I hadn't really heard much about win8 at all.

    the original design of Windows (1) worked for the time. windows 95 was a stripped down badly butchered NT (2), 98 was much better (3), ME was LOL (4), XP was the biggest improvement to windows in a long time (5), Vista was terrible (6) Windows 7 made it a lot better (7) and now Windows 8.... well, we'll see if it breaks the pattern.
    Original design of Windows? Windows 1 couldn't even support overlapping Windows. Windows 2 solved this (and that's my limit of knowledge on 2.0). Windows 3 introduced "386 enhanced mode" which allowed multiple programs to run at once and removed the 1 MB memory limit. It was most widely seen as "that thing on my computer that let's me play "Solitare." The UI was still awkward, confusing (no, those icons do NOT represent actual files on your computer), and while it was considered Microsoft's best attempt at reproducing Apple's OS for their line of Macintosh computers on x86 machines, it was still seen as a pain by many to use and work with. Which is why DOS remained so popular until the introduction of Windows 95.

    Windows 95 changed the debate between Macs and PCs from "hey, us PC users don't need a fancy graphical interface when we got a command line" to "okay we got a graphical UI now AND a two button mouse (that we never noticed or bothered with before cuz it was functionaly worthless)." I am not sure why you place it on such a low pedestal. Windows NT at the time was simply Windows 3.1 with a more robust kernel (that maybe oversimplifying it but no one ever cared about NT).

    For reference, see this video and shortly after 4 minutes in, Gates says this himself (more or less). And yeah this is off-topic. But people here are neglecting Metro's UI like they did with the UI introduced with the Mac and Windows 95.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    1For reference, see this video and shortly after 4 minutes in, Gates says this himself (more or less). And yeah this is off-topic. But people here are neglecting Metro's UI like they did with the UI introduced with the Mac and Windows 95.
    I read an article yesterday that said MS devs are furiously ripping out code from windows 8 that could be used as a hack to access the windows button. I'm assuming that's the type of thing you're talking about, MS isn't standing for it this time. That could either end up a bad thing or a good thing in the end, we'll see.
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