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    I'll be skipping Windows 8 unless the OS looks more like a desktop computer and less like a tablet.
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    I think window 8 should have been a Window 7 SP2 but you know that just me lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    I think window 8 should have been a Window 7 SP2 but you know that just me lol
    No, it should have been but you see this is a world where people don't give a shit about how they spend their money. Gamers are more than happy to pay for the same game twice, I mean the $50-$60 on a game plus the god knows how many $100s you'll spend just to unlock data already present on the disk isn't enough, so why not charge people for OS updates (windows wise)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    No, it should have been but you see this is a world where people don't give a shit about how they spend their money. Gamers are more than happy to pay for the same game twice, I mean the $50-$60 on a game plus the god knows how many $100s you'll spend just to unlock data already present on the disk isn't enough, so why not charge people for OS updates (windows wise)?
    Indeed. Release day DLC for $$ is without doubt the best money making trick in the bizz for single player especially right now. Never mind the often questionable amount of content provided in many DLCs provided later on. Theres alot of games i like and love, but not enough to spend 10 dollars on a weapon skin.

    "Dark days are ahead" for pricing plans in part because people have shown a willingness to pay for it...
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    I love Windows 7 (64bit-Ultimate), but I wouldn't touch Windows 8 with a 100ft long pole for supporting a tablet UI on a desktop PC.
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    windows 8 FTL i hope windows 7 stays around like xp
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    Win8 made the mistake of forcing the tablet UI on a desktop system. They should have made Metro run as a Desktop application, not vice versa. And since ARM can't run windows programs anyway, there would be no mixup.

    Metro is good on a touchscreen, but for mice, it sucks. I tried both the consumer and the release preview and it's a complete mess of metro intruding on aero and vice versa, like half of the control panel still being aero.

    Oh and it refuses to see my wlan network while showing others :P

    I did like the improvements they did to the system overall and windows explorer, less 3rd party application needed. But that's still not worth coping with the Metro UI. I hope win9 will have a split between desktop and tablet, else I guess I'll stick with win7 forever.

    As for Aero hogging resources, that was true for vista, WDDM1.1 stops rendering aero once your application switches to fullscreen. And by fullscreen, I mean true fullscreen (exclusive mode), not that "borderless window" most people seem to use to stop ffxiv from crashing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Win8 made the mistake of forcing the tablet UI on a desktop system. They should have made Metro run as a Desktop application, not vice versa. And since ARM can't run windows programs anyway, there would be no mixup.

    Metro is good on a touchscreen, but for mice, it sucks. I tried both the consumer and the release preview and it's a complete mess of metro intruding on aero and vice versa, like half of the control panel still being aero.
    No. Metro is overall a better interface. Explorer is clunky. Face it... most everything people use is located via a shortcut on THE DESKTOP. Metro simplifies this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    I was gonna keep quiet, but this comment made me speak up. What exactly is the advantage of windows 8 over windows 7 on a desktop without a touchscreen? It's my understanding that W8 has huge advances in usability for tablet PCs, but what advantages does it have for non-tablet PCs?
    The Metro interface is presently used on the Xbox360 as it's primary UI and the Xbox360 does not use a touchscreen interface. And I hate to break it too you a tablet with a touchscreen UI isn't much different than desktop mouse driven UI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    No. Metro is overall a better interface. Explorer is clunky.
    I don't see anything clunky about it, especially since it's clearly optimized for mouse input, while Metro is optimized for touch input. Having to wait for windows to realize you put your mouse near an active corner or risk erroneously opening the start menu by setting the delay too low is way too clunky compared to simply swiping your finger from one edge of the screen. And don't let me get started on scrolling.

    Face it... most everything people use is located via a shortcut on THE DESKTOP. Metro simplifies this.
    idk, my desktop doesn't have a single icon on it. And even if it had, icons look better than those ugly huge cells with a small icon for the program. I'm not planning to use metro apps, I didn't buy my fullHD screen to have one app visible at a time, maximum of two.

    What they did to the UI was actually going back in time where you couldn't even have overlapping windows... except now you can't even have windows on an OS that is called "windows" (legacy desktop not counted)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    I don't think its that, because alot of games (talking offline here) are cross platform, and the PS3 uses OpenGL. if they wanted to devs could write a Linux version based on OpenGL ported from the PS3 version, it would be alot easier than porting from PC to PS3 and vice versa because nothing would be changed between Dx and OpenGL.

    You heard me SE give us a Linux port of FFXIV from the PS3 version, my poor Ubuntu gets neglected (well if I can fix my hybrid graphics problems, been working on em for months)
    Oh, I see... hmm.
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