No trailer at E3 LOL @ SE

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes, but im not whining from a point of extreme ignorance/lack of common sense/insert insult here. There's nothing wrong with complaining. There *is* something wrong with complaining about something that you don't even comprehend. The least ppl could do with their complaints is exercise common sense. I'm *all* for complaining, but let's at least pretend to have brain cells when we do it yeah? The complaints in the thread are just retarded, especially considering a trailer without information was *not* going to do *anything* to drum up any sort of mass interest. From a marketing perspective, all it would've been to gamers was a fail game with a new trailer. And anyone with a shred of common sense could see that, but all the community is good for these days is face-rolling drivel on their keyboards.

It has nothing to do about whining, its all about complaining while using some brain matter. I mean cmon, you have to see these ludicrous conclusions are just that...ludicrous.

you also have to be smart enough to use brain cells and realize that if the game is supposed to release in just a few short months they should have at least something that people can put their hands on. if they don't have something that they could have made a hands on demo for at least the console version for e3 you should really start to question if the game will actually be even close to ready by the time the release date comes up.

you also have to realize that e3 is the largest show for the na players and it is also the spot that specializes in consoles. i would have thought they would have been prepared since release is in oct/nov, but undoubtedly not.

[Nullie]

Yes, but im not whining from a point of extreme ignorance/lack of common sense/insert insult here. There's nothing wrong with complaining. There *is* something wrong with complaining about something that you don't even comprehend. The least ppl could do with their complaints is exercise common sense. I'm *all* for complaining, but let's at least pretend to have brain cells when we do it yeah? The complaints in the thread are just retarded, especially considering a trailer without information was *not* going to do *anything* to drum up any sort of mass interest. From a marketing perspective, all it would've been to gamers was a fail game with a new trailer. And anyone with a shred of common sense could see that, but all the community is good for these days is face-rolling drivel on their keyboards.

It has nothing to do about whining, its all about complaining while using some brain matter. I mean cmon, you have to see these ludicrous conclusions are just that...ludicrous.

You know...how does a CGI trailer change anyone's opinion about FFXIV again? Cuz the summary of the thread is: No trailer at E3 = FFXIV 2.0 fail. So my question is, how does a CGI trailer reflect *anything* about the game/gameplay/quality at all? Last I checked, a CGI trailer was just that...CGI. And last I checked, we don't play the game in CGI soooo >_> wth are you guys whining about. A trailer at E3 wasn't going to do shit, especially without a lot of information behind it

You use this. Yes, but im not whining from a point of extreme ignorance/lack of common sense/insert insult here" and then you say that it is a CGI trailer which you haven't a clue whether or not (ignorance) there is any gameplay in it. And all it comes down to is ignorance. I won't even bother.

"Yes, but im not whining from a" You say it best yourself. You're whining. Doesn't matter. Your whining = other peoples whining = whining = whining.

[Alhanelem]

We don't need a goddamned trailer, we just need solid information about 2.0. Seriously. Who cares if there's a trailer or not as long as something good comes out of E3? It's not like a trailer is the only thing they could show. Maybe they'll be demoing 2.0 live! That's what I'd like to see.

[Starlord]

you also have to be smart enough to use brain cells and realize that if the game is supposed to release in just a few short months they should have at least something that people can put their hands on. if they don't have something that they could have made a hands on demo for at least the console version for e3 you should really start to question if the game will actually be even close to ready by the time the release date comes up.

you also have to realize that e3 is the largest show for the na players and it is also the spot that specializes in consoles. i would have thought they would have been prepared since release is in oct/nov, but undoubtedly not.

You also have to realize that there's a lot of things @ E3 that will topple FFXIV and won't stand a chance there.. Esp. with Wii U Taking the spotlight. Esp when FFXIV is already failed MMO, they need to "Wait for the right moment to strike" E3 is just not one of them.. doing it Just prior to 2.0 Beta ( Gamescom and Penny Arcade) is the perfect time to strike.

E3 is going to blow me away with these games:

- Nintendo Wii U
- Assassins Creed III
- Resident Evil 6

No one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO @ E3 when there are better things to look at.

[Cendres]

We don't need a goddamned trailer, we just need solid information about 2.0. Seriously. Who cares if there's a trailer or not as long as something good comes out of E3? It's not like a trailer is the only thing they could show. Maybe they'll be demoing 2.0 live! That's what I'd like to see.

Well according to what Yoshi was saying in the letter it doesn't sound like it. They are keeping the trailer because they want to keep the wraps on, so while what you suggest would be super freaking awesome with a cherry on top, I doubt that's what will happen so I'm just going to expect a Q&A and that's about that.

[darkstarpoet1]

You also have to realize that there's a lot of things @ E3 that will topple FFXIV and won't stand a chance there.. Esp. with Wii U Taking the spotlight. Esp when FFXIV is already failed MMO, they need to "Wait for the right moment to strike" E3 is just not one of them.. doing it Just prior to 2.0 Beta ( Gamescom and Penny Arcade) is the perfect time to strike.

E3 is going to blow me away with these games:

- Nintendo Wii U
- Assassins Creed III
- Resident Evil 6

No one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO @ E3 when there are better things to look at.

yes, you are correct. you must also realize that those games that will be blowing people away at e3 while that "failed game" is showing nothing is creating a buzz for those games. when se does start their massive promotion they not only have to make up for the original release and the bad press it has already gotten, but now they also have to play catchup to the buzz surrounding the games that were shown at e3 that blows it out the water.

now look at your own statement and word it just a little difference
"No one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO @ E3 when there are better things to look at."
no one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO after E3 when there are better things people are already looking at.

[Starlord]

lol Either way you put it, the 2 Conventions in August will cover lost ground + Youtube ^^.

[TheVedis]

yes, you are correct. you must also realize that those games that will be blowing people away at e3 while that "failed game" is showing nothing is creating a buzz for those games. when se does start their massive promotion they not only have to make up for the original release and the bad press it has already gotten, but now they also have to play catchup to the buzz surrounding the games that were shown at e3 that blows it out the water.

now look at your own statement and word it just a little difference
"No one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO @ E3 when there are better things to look at."
no one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO after E3 when there are better things people are already looking at.

the more i read from you and a few others the more i realize people really dont know what e3 is really about


there are 2 things people expect at e3 and look for

1) new unexpected released, these only really happen during the main press conferences
2) games that they have already been following that have not yet been released that they are waiting on

going off of this, you can pretty much guarentee 14 wasnt going to be in a press conference, so that rules that out, and as for #2, we are alreayd released, so giving people an "update" on a released game is pretty pointless. it would be the equivilent of blizzard going there to advertise warcraft, it wont do anything for them

also given the history of MMOs at e3, its also a bad time for it, usualy most mmos give absolutely no or little info at e3 cuz its not the time for them to shine. in the past, all you ever really see for them are trailers, inside the main conferences(again proving point #1 above)


ive been a hardcore following of e3 for years, and this has pretty much held true every year so far as ive been watching it and see what gets covered and what they actualy show.

[Alhanelem]

No one is going to bother with FFXIV a Failed MMO @ E3 when there are better things to look at.

I'd imagine FFXIV is just one small part of what SQUEENIX has to show at E3. Do you really think that a revamped version of a previously released game is all they're going to show?

It's not like anyone's trying to 'beat" nintendo or capcom. It's a show, not a competition.

[PSxpert2011]

1st The trailers done- not showing at E3
2nd They plan to show off the trailer with their launch on a promotion site.
3rd At 2.0 launch, those who view in current time on launch can try the free trial (instead of waiting)
4th All information will be available ("not trickles of it")


So Square Enix doesn't show their game at E3, I've never gone there(and probably never will). It's no big deal for me and beside, SE's a Japanese publisher, they don't owe E3 nothing. I'll still be playing FFXIV just like the rest of the world and I'll get to see the trailer on the web.

I know their reasoning doesn't explain much to most of us westerners and it doesn't make sense. The mainstream media and gaming world ( players & non-players) have scrutinized XIV before it's launched w/o even playing and comparing to last years' they'll new to have everything up-to-date and ready to rock and roll. So to me, they're pretty much going to "land hard running" and full speed.