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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    the title of this thread threw me off, if you know very few will like it its obviously a bad idea.
    Yeah, man but very few people like taxes but supporting a necessary infrastructure isn't a bad idea.

    In reality the idea isn't entirely bad.

    1. Exploit. If you desire to meld new gear (as people will when new content comes out) you may want to have the materia back from an obsolete piece. This mechanic allows for that.

    2. Will it show? Will markets becoming flooded from time-to-time, the cheapest gear is shown first. This means that some of the triple-melded gear may not even show up since it will run substantially more.

    3. Does it matter? Not really. People can /sh to sell uber gear. Besides, it doesn't show who is selling the 733t gear anyway.

    Does this hurt the game? Nope. Does it potentially provide a hugely beneficial exploit with minimal negative impact? Yup. Look beyond the knee-jerk reaction - which is the problem with these forums - nobody really does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    Yeah, man but very few people like taxes but supporting a necessary infrastructure isn't a bad idea.
    This is exactly what is bad about the idea. Everyone thinks taxes are allocated to specific funds rather than just tossed into a general slush fund the government can spend any which way they want like most taxes are. It seems like a good idea until you realize how it's being exploited/abused/mishandled by poor management and little to no oversight.

    This OP's idea doesn't even really provide the SENSE of being a good idea from the start, how do you think it's going to end?

    Also your comparison isn't really apt, taxes would be like what SE did to the market wards for selling items outside the designated ward. This OP's idea is more like the government coming to the local used car dealership and smashing all the cars up so people are motivated to buy from private sellers or buy new cars altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    This is exactly what is bad about the idea. Everyone thinks taxes are allocated to specific funds rather than just tossed into a general slush fund the government can spend any which way they want like most taxes are. It seems like a good idea until you realize how it's being exploited/abused/mishandled by poor management and little to no oversight.

    This OP's idea doesn't even really provide the SENSE of being a good idea from the start, how do you think it's going to end?

    Also your comparison isn't really apt, taxes would be like what SE did to the market wards for selling items outside the designated ward. This OP's idea is more like the government coming to the local used car dealership and smashing all the cars up so people are motivated to buy from private sellers or buy new cars altogether.
    You get the point. Because something isn't popular doesn't automatically make it bad. I challenge you to come up with a negative impact that outweights people being able to get back melded materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    You get the point. Because something isn't popular doesn't automatically make it bad. I challenge you to come up with a negative impact that outweights people being able to get back melded materia.
    People being able to get back melded materia.

    What's the point of spiritbonding/materia/melding/creating most 40+ gear to spiritbond if you can just take the materia you like back? The whole point of materia was to encourage people to use up more gear FOR materia which clears the economy from a build up of gear in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    You get the point. Because something isn't popular doesn't automatically make it bad. I challenge you to come up with a negative impact that outweights people being able to get back melded materia.
    The negative impact would be that people quit the game cause of your stupid idea.
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    "A (good) idea very few will like."

    This alone should provide you with an answer about how poor the idea is if you don't even have faith in it yourself. "I am going to post an idea I know a lot of people are going to hate which makes it a good idea."
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