Auction House Idea...BLOW YOUR MIND

[Wolfie]

Honestly I would like to see an ah similar to FFXI's with a blind bidding system. Only reason for this is because it keeps prices somewhat stable, it's fair to all, and if you wanted to undercut something, it generally wouldn't destroy the items value.

But I would like to see an ebay twist for melded gears, you know a by it now price, a min asking price and such.

Define "fair." Because regardless of AH/MW system, I can do the same thing the next person can. That seems fair to me.

[Jokerz]

Define "fair." Because regardless of AH/MW system, I can do the same thing the next person can. That seems fair to me.

I guess fair isn't the right word but it helps keep things stable. I mean there should be no reason why I gather something and put it up for sale, and in less then an hour it drops by 50% of then value of the item(after me undercutting the lowest seller)

Don't get me wrong, I like the current system, but mainly for gear, particularly melded pieces. For everything else, the system feels like more of a headache to navigate every 5 mins to change my price to the current trend. Not to mention you can't even search for +1 things which further hinders it...

[Wolfie]

I guess fair isn't the right word but it helps keep things stable. I mean there should be no reason why I gather something and put it up for sale, and in less then an hour it drops by 50% of then value of the item(after me undercutting the lowest seller)

Don't get me wrong, I like the current system, but mainly for gear, particularly melded pieces. For everything else, the system feels like more of a headache to navigate every 5 mins to change my price to the current trend. Not to mention you can't even search for +1 things which further hinders it...

But that happened all the time in FFXI too. It has less to do with how items are transfered from player to player and more to do with the supply and demand of a given item.

[Jokerz]

But that happened all the time in FFXI too. It has less to do with how items are transfered from player to player and more to do with the supply and demand of a given item.

Not really, in ffxi could put up a stack of items and be fairly certain they will sell by the morning. In ffxiv, when I put up something, the next morning I come back to a hell of a change in price. In the ah system on FFXI price fluctuations were a lot more gradual and less impulsive.

[ScapeZero]

But that happened all the time in FFXI too. It has less to do with how items are transfered from player to player and more to do with the supply and demand of a given item.

Not really. The big moment when you say things like that was during inflation and deflation, when massive amount of money where entering and leaving the economy. Other than that, you had no idea what other people where listing their items for. You could assume the dropped the price of something by a few gil to get a sale before other people, but all you had was the list of the last 10 sold, so you would base what you put your item up for on that. If you saw 10k,10k,10k,10k,10k,10k,etc chances are, youll but it up for a few gil under 10k. In XIV you can see exactly how much everyone else is putting things up for. You dont have to guess if you should undercut a few gil to get first sael, you know straight up that if the lowest up is 10k, you can put it up for 9k, and people will buy it first.

And then everyone else knows that as well. And then you see the last 20 items sold ranging from 100k to 10k in the past few days, along with prices all over the place being sold.

Blind bidding is just better. Some people cant hold it in their pants and drop it one gil over whos up first, they think by dropping it 10% they will get a sale faster, or something. Blind bidding can help with that, because unless the buyer wants to spend time to save a few gil, they generally will just bid its current price. It exploits the laziness of people. With this...well they can just see they can save 10%, rather than trying to guess it.

This hurts sellers. If you farm a someone common item that everyone will every now and then get a stack off, that will hurt your business. People who randomly cross items like that will undercut, because its just a bonus to them. Crafters who are spamming crafts to level, will undercut because they want their money back ASAP to keep crafting. People who dont use that item to make money (almost everyone selling it) ruin things for people who do.

This is why blind bidding is the best way to handle an AH.