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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, you should ease up on it a bit.
    Was I talking to you? How rude!
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    F@!x E3 viewers, they would just get interested, buy the game, log on, not even realize that the amazing changes are coming months~ later, when everyone will have forgotten about the video by then, and then quit. Even though the video would have the damn release in september/october.
    {Truth of Forests}
    Thats true, humans are very dumb.

    I still think its a bad decision and a really big mistake not to show the trailer.

    Basicaly it comes down to this, there is excitement within the FFXIV community about 2.0, we cant wait for it!! We know its coming!! We care!

    E3 is SE's chance to generate excitement and buzz for 2.0 OUTSIDE our community and to mmorpg gamers around the world. Thats what E3 is about, it gives games developers a chance to show off their games and generate massive hype on the internet about them.

    E3 is when the world will be watching. Bad decision.

    Personaly I dont really give a fuck how many new players get interested in playing the game after being hyped up at E3 or how much money SE will lose from potential subs. I cared about the 2.0 trailer being shown from a purely selfish perspective.

    I just wanted to see it
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    Last edited by Kyra; 05-29-2012 at 12:10 AM.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    The funny thing about this situation, this is when XIV actually got most of it's hype, since people got excited from E3 reveal, sure, but Gamescom was when a lot of the info/previews regarding XIV even came to light.
    That was simply a situation of circumstance, the game was ready to be shown in a very pre alpha style way Gamescon is less professional in that the content you show can be a little rough round the edges.

    Anything on the show floor at E3 has to look finished and polished otherwise you will get negative feedback, that being said SE have known for a very long time that E3 would be in June they should have had something to show, the fact they have retracted from E3 suggests to me they could be behind schedule or don't feel confident enough in what they have to show the public. (neither of which bodes well)

    This still doesn't excuse the fact that SE have their own Conference and could have shown the trailer or in game footage there, they have also had Q&A sessions before at E3, which I'm sure will happen this year also, of course we will get as much info out of that as we usual do though which is next to nothing. "wait a little longer etc"

    This whole things stinks of bad publicity and a failure to anticipate the public's perception of the game.

    All I can say is this website better be awesome as hell, even then how will they get people who don't care or know about FFXIV to visit the site ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Was I talking to you? How rude!
    Indeed.
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  4. #94
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    I'm not trying to sit here and white knight for SE cause i question their motives also but, on the other hand does anyone that posted responses to this know anything about business or marketing. I mean just because we don't understand doesn't mean that their is not a logical idea at state. I mean in all no matter what wither SE is thinking logically or not they are doing what they think is appropriate because no matter what they don't want the game to fail because they will lose even more money then before. All i am saying is either put some logical reason why this could be the reason they chose this or maybe an explanation from someone that has business or marketing degree to kind of explain the reasoning behind this. Yoshi-P may be the man behind FFXIV but, he does have a boss so this hard to go through some chain of bosses before coming to this decision. SE has been around for a while so forgive me if i seem like i am white knight but, SE didn't become a successful business from failing constantly. So i going to give SE the reasonable doubt until it certain what the outcome will be.
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    actually in a marketing move, that is honestly a smart idea to wait and flood, BUT they need to stop the hype train of Guild Wars 2 so maybe a sneak peek wouldn't be too bad. Honestly I am disappointed because I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO hyped for this years E3 it just made me cry inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    There are non sucky E3's? \O_o/
    How can you forget the awesomeness that was Mr. Tak Fuji.

    ONE MIRION TROOPS. WOW.
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    Also, they treating this like a new game, not an expansion.
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    I just don't care either way anymore. I feel Yoshi P has fulfilled his promises so far and I think he will continue to do so. However, Square Enix's record since about 2006 has been less than stellar. I will not allow this news to ruin my E3, too many other goodies to look forward to.
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    No matter how you look at it, the ONLY thing that was stated in that letter was that Trailer Won't be at E3 Period. Yoshi-P is still going to E3 ( yes for interviews we all know that one), but something tells me there's more than what meets the eye.

    People have this strange mentality when Someone says something is not going to be there, Nothing of that game will be their at all. I don't know whats going to be at E3, and neither do all of you that claim nothing is going to be their, even you Delsus and even myself that think that there's going to be more to show at E3.

    We all no next to nothing.. all we know is there's no E3 trailer.. Trying to pull out theories of reason of it being there or not is just stupid imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Not having a big showing for E3 is a horrible move for SE at least in the West. There is no other event that will get the publicity of E3 over here. The overwhelming majority of NA mmo players consider FFXIV the worst mmo game ever made, and they have no plans on following it... they need to be forced to look at it again. I would say most do not even know of any of the changes that took place, past the first version update.

    All I have to say is if SE better have something impressive at E3 or they better shell out millions plastering FFXIV 2.0 on all the TV channels like Blizzard does their stuff or there is little chance of recovery of this game even if they do really fix it. Word of mouth is the best advertising, but atm it is all negative.
    A trailer will NOT hype the game, everyone will see it as that failure again, Gameplay will hype the game as in "omg that looks awesome" very few trailers have gameplay in them, I am 99% certain this will be the fact with FFXIV 2.0 trailer, but if they show gameplay that is live on thier test server it will be good for the game.
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