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  1. #21
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    Leo_Hart's Avatar
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    Leo Hart
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    Masamune
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyres View Post
    I know how to tank.
    why you ask if you know how to tank?
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  2. #22
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    Ambuter's Avatar
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    Hitomi Yuki
    World
    Seraph
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Have absolutely no issues tanking since the hot-fix. Yes Steel Cyclone isn't OP anymore when tanking a single target and yes collusion isn't a freebie 1200+ dmg.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyres View Post
    Really? Your monks need some DPS help XD
    No, your MNK needs DPS help. The only way you can deal 30k if it hits second or third regen pool. SE buffed MNK but they didnt adjust Misser HP, Speedkill will be faster but total damage dealt wont change.
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  4. #24
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    Xquiel's Avatar
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    Xquiel Kun
    World
    Hyperion
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    Weaver Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Which limits us to one tank. One tank out of the plethora of jobs in the FF IP is a bad idea. Figured we'd have learned this from FFXI...
    they're not limiting u to one tank, as u can see WAR and PLD can tank, each one has their pros and cons, but u have two jobs to choose no just one.
    PLD = Better hate control
    WAR = Better DMG
    In my opinion I like more the PLD as tank, because DDs can get mad with DMG haha =)
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  5. #25
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xquiel View Post
    they're not limiting u to one tank, as u can see WAR and PLD can tank, each one has their pros and cons, but u have two jobs to choose no just one.
    PLD = Better hate control
    WAR = Better DMG
    In my opinion I like more the PLD as tank, because DDs can get mad with DMG haha =)
    One thing i do know about pld it tanks super good with melee around them I don't think any skill in the game gives more hate than rampart when it hits everyone. I have been doing moogle on pld pre 1.21a hotfix and i just let DD's go crazy and have i just get yellow or red hate on every mob before the boom spell and rampart makes every single moogle go to flashing red XD
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  6. #26
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    Syntax Lies
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    Hyperion
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    Leatherworker Lv 50
    Monk got increased damage and collusion got nerfed. I was already riding red the whole so I guess it's expected.
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  7. #27
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    Destain's Avatar
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    Destain Osmont
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
    Or have the highest hit pug warn you before howling fist and collusion them. Seems like only a slight change to me, if emnity has been lost it has been a few seconds at the end of the fight.
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  8. #28
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    Delsus Highwind
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    Odin
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    Red Mage Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    Or have the highest hit pug warn you before howling fist and collusion them. Seems like only a slight change to me, if emnity has been lost it has been a few seconds at the end of the fight.
    From what I have been reading collusion is nowhere near as good as it was, yes it has uses but if a MNK throws out 1800 howling fist, and the WAR gets hate similar to 700 damage, yes it helps, but the MNK will get most of it still.
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  9. #29
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    Red Fyre
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Nope. Miser runs away only once and our MNK's do 26k damage easily. It usually only a 5-6min fight for us.

    The problem here is not my tanking ability. I know how to tank well. It's the hate problem now that mnk is just way too over powered.

    I had a little better luck with PLD thankfully. So I guess i'll switch before miser.
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  10. #30
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    Red Fyre
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Holyomen View Post
    You must be freaking awesome.
    Cause that's what you do right? smartass.
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