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  1. 05-27-2012 08:40 AM #1
    Fyres
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    Miser Fight post-patch

    Anyone on WAR having a tough time keeping hate from MNK's on Miser? I have over 100+ Enimity gear and use maddening potions. On top of that, I use collusion at beginning of fight with a Firaga and collusion monks whenever I see them do a WS....


    Wtf se? Learn to balance jobs.
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  2. 05-27-2012 08:42 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyres View Post
    Anyone on WAR having a tough time keeping hate from MNK's on Miser? I have over 100+ Enimity gear and use maddening potions. On top of that, I use collusion at beginning of fight with a Firaga and collusion monks whenever I see them do a WS....


    Wtf se? Learn to balance jobs.
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
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  3. 05-27-2012 08:45 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
    This. WAR isn't supposed to be a boss tank.
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  4. 05-27-2012 09:01 AM #4
    Xquiel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyres View Post
    Anyone on WAR having a tough time keeping hate from MNK's on Miser? I have over 100+ Enimity gear and use maddening potions. On top of that, I use collusion at beginning of fight with a Firaga and collusion monks whenever I see them do a WS....


    Wtf se? Learn to balance jobs.
    Yes, they are balancing just that, that's why PLD controls better the hate
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  5. 05-27-2012 09:03 AM #5
    DeadRiser
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    I had a Warrior tank with 4 MNK and he never lost hate o.o Maybe you aren't tanking too well?

    Paladin is a lot better now, people need to move away from the past
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  6. 05-27-2012 09:14 AM #6
    Murugan
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    Collusion is definitely a lot weaker than it used to be, but you should try using it with a monk using Howling fist rather than "whenever you see them doing a weapon skill".

    Monk weapon skills range from 400-1800+ so obviously howling fist is going to be a lot better. But it feels like Collusion is much lower than 50% of the threat from the attack now, which is a shame because whether you think WAR "should" be a boss tank or not effective hate transfer is a nice addition to party mechanics that is now once again lacking in FFXIV.

    Can we get a real trick attack like ability already?
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  7. 05-27-2012 09:16 AM #7
    Fyres
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    I know how to tank.
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  8. 05-27-2012 09:18 AM #8
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    A throwing weapon tank shouldn't have issues even post hotfixes.
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  9. 05-27-2012 09:27 AM #9
    Murugan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    A throwing weapon tank shouldn't have issues even post hotfixes.
    Yeah but I wouldn't rely on that as a crutch as it isn't likely intended and will probably be fixed at some time.
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  10. 05-27-2012 09:49 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xquiel View Post
    Yes, they are balancing just that, that's why PLD controls better the hate
    Which limits us to one tank. One tank out of the plethora of jobs in the FF IP is a bad idea. Figured we'd have learned this from FFXI...
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)
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