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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyres View Post
    Anyone on WAR having a tough time keeping hate from MNK's on Miser? I have over 100+ Enimity gear and use maddening potions. On top of that, I use collusion at beginning of fight with a Firaga and collusion monks whenever I see them do a WS....


    Wtf se? Learn to balance jobs.
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
    This. WAR isn't supposed to be a boss tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    This. WAR isn't supposed to be a boss tank.

    Really guess what the groups I run with still dont use a PLD to tank in av or cc. WAR can still tank, and until SE fixes PLD you wont see many groups useing it for speed runs. Nerfing other jobs is the only way SE has been trying to fix PLD as well as adding a few buffs here and there. SE cant seem to learn from its mistakes and this will continue until they do. If players want a PLD tank than they need to tell SE to fix PLD w/o nerfing other jobs ie : WAR!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Really guess what the groups I run with still dont use a PLD to tank in av or cc. WAR can still tank, and until SE fixes PLD you wont see many groups useing it for speed runs. Nerfing other jobs is the only way SE has been trying to fix PLD as well as adding a few buffs here and there. SE cant seem to learn from its mistakes and this will continue until they do. If players want a PLD tank than they need to tell SE to fix PLD w/o nerfing other jobs ie : WAR!!
    Calm the fuck down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxthunder View Post
    Really guess what the groups I run with still dont use a PLD to tank in av or cc. WAR can still tank, and until SE fixes PLD you wont see many groups useing it for speed runs. Nerfing other jobs is the only way SE has been trying to fix PLD as well as adding a few buffs here and there. SE cant seem to learn from its mistakes and this will continue until they do. If players want a PLD tank than they need to tell SE to fix PLD w/o nerfing other jobs ie : WAR!!
    WAR is fine, PLD is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury View Post
    WAR is fine, PLD is fine.
    A cat is fine too

    (okay, sorry for the interlude)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    A cat is fine too

    (okay, sorry for the interlude)
    Of course!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Thry tanking it on a PLD, MNK is the top single target dd, from what I have heard PLD holds hate alot better than WAR now.
    Or have the highest hit pug warn you before howling fist and collusion them. Seems like only a slight change to me, if emnity has been lost it has been a few seconds at the end of the fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destain View Post
    Or have the highest hit pug warn you before howling fist and collusion them. Seems like only a slight change to me, if emnity has been lost it has been a few seconds at the end of the fight.
    From what I have been reading collusion is nowhere near as good as it was, yes it has uses but if a MNK throws out 1800 howling fist, and the WAR gets hate similar to 700 damage, yes it helps, but the MNK will get most of it still.
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