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  1. #11
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    Exocryst Lebreska
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    I think until and beyond. I feel like Yoshi thinks crafting/gathering is just a hobby.
    I'm taking a wait and see approach with the DoL. We know that all classes can do the Ishgard Dragon Defense and the treasure maps only the DoL can read. Don't want my newly 50 Miner to collect dust now
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    Wolfie Wu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    Yea, it is lame, but I think that is how they intend it to be. A time sink since it gives high exp, gil, and items.
    I would rather that they tune leves so that there's less of a reward or buff trade-in (hint hint, history eval right now sucks) so that coming to town is worth it. The whole "get high exp for 15 minutes, then spent 15 minutes doing nothing" is really not fun, when we could instead have something like "get adequate/above grinding average exp for 30 minutes."
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  3. #13
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    ...except you get materials during the leves.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    usefull materials
    Bolded for emphasis.

    Most leves don't give you alot of options as to what your looking for. Guess I'm just a sucker for getting what I want and not just "Stuff"
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    I think until and beyond. I feel like Yoshi thinks crafting/gathering is just a hobby.
    Actually, the impression I got from the letter was that he feels DoL/DoH are there to support the DoW/DoM. This means going away from the old model that had you able to do all the missions even if DoL/DoH are your only disciplines.

    The key difference between hobby and support, is that we can expect them to add updates and improvements to the disciplines, as well as more ways to utilize them. Hamlet Defense is a prime example: The event still maintains the concept that DoL/DoH are support, but they're quite essential both for getting the supply rating up for rewards, as well as to support the NPCs during the combat phase.

    While it does appear DoL/DoH are going to have a subservient role (As they very well should), I think we'll continue to see adjustments for both of them.
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  5. #15
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Bolded for emphasis.

    Most leves don't give you alot of options as to what your looking for. Guess I'm just a sucker for getting what I want and not just "Stuff"
    ...have you even done a DoL leve? One type has you heading off to three nodes and gathering whatever you please until you finish them all, giving extra xp for the gathering itself and a bonus at the end. The other leve type has you gathering spots to try and get three of a quest item, which drops a bucketload of xp on you when you do so. You can still try to aim for whatever materials you want during this time.

    How do they "not give you a lot of options"?
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  6. #16
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    ...have you even done a DoL leve?
    How do they "not give you a lot of options"?
    There are other places to gather than the 3 cities I actually spend a good deal of time in Coerthos where there are no leves or farming spruce branches where there are...no leves.

    Yes I have done leves and the exp is nice, but once you hit the higher 40's that exp becomes pointless due to deminishing returns in what leveling up actually does for you as a DoL. I should also point out that the leves don't always give you the same pick of items that normal gathering would. A few of the leves actually change the loot-pool of the tree drastically.

    So in closing I prefer aiming for the items I want over a exp boost and warping allover the place all day.
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  7. #17
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    Probably because they're gathering classes. You use them to gather materials, not grind to max level.
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    Last edited by KiriA500; 05-26-2012 at 02:26 AM.

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