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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFatHousecat View Post
    Show me a parse where a BRD does 130+ DPS on Miser's Mistress and I'll agree. BRD does not match MNK/DRG/WAR DPS in almost all cases. The reason that BRDs are in such high demand is their songs and utility as a semi-healing class, as well as ranged just generally always being desirable as far as AoE is concerned.

    ARC/BRD has always been in demand, yes, but not because it was the best DPS (with an exception to DH pre-nerf).

    But bringing up auto attack on melee vs. ranged is silly; I could bring up that MNK's WS recasts are a lot shorter than BRD's, but that doesn't mean that MNK's WS timers should all be doubled.
    You answered your own question. Bard is a support/dps. They shouldn't have the highest dps. Bringing up Monk is like talking about peaches in an apple conversation. Monks are pure dps with elements. And Bards/Archers are attacking from a distance safely and have the easiest combos.

    I think you are just biased because it is your favorite job/class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You answered your own question. Bard is a support/dps. They shouldn't have the highest dps. Bringing up Monk is like talking about peaches in an apple conversation. Monks are pure dps with elements. And Bards/Archers are attacking from a distance safely and have the easiest combos.

    I think you are just biased because it is your favorite job/class.
    BRD isn't highest DPS nor was it post-fix. I brought up MNK as an example of how much higher prospective DPS is for other DPS classes. BRDs may have the easiest combos but their timers are the longest, and they have to balance songs/buffs alongside DPS. The point that I'm trying to make is that no, BRD shouldn't be highest DPS, but it wasn't highest before this fix. I'll live with it, obv, but it just feels stupid. Why nerf BRD when it didn't need to be nerfed in the first place?

    BRD is one of my favorite classes, yes, but my argument against the fix is driven by logic, not bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    You answered your own question. Bard is a support/dps. They shouldn't have the highest dps. Bringing up Monk is like talking about peaches in an apple conversation. Monks are pure dps with elements. And Bards/Archers are attacking from a distance safely and have the easiest combos.

    I think you are just biased because it is your favorite job/class.
    You should keep in mind that this change affects archer as well as bard, which is not a support role. It can be, just like pugilist can, so why is it's dps being gimped while the other classes' dps aren't?

    Sure if BRD dmg was too high for a support role and they made a change to how the soul crystal affects you on equip, okay. But this is a gimp to a class that shouldn't recieve one imo, and a job that I don't think needed one either.

    And those that think this was an exploit, how is the use of throwing weapons as TP generation not one? You're just going to see bards flinging firepots or w/e at mobs like a warrior now. Which... is ridiculous for an archer.
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