job balancing discussion (1.22a-hotfix)

[Velhart]

PLD will never be wanted as long as they don't have AoE damage. This game revolves around speeding through content as fast as possible. That meaning people bring the most viable AoE damage they can, meaning PLD's won't ever get hate off them. At least WAR's have Collusion and Steel Cyclone no matter how much SE gimps them.

So yet again, speed runs only makes things worst.

[Honz]

Power Surge is giving me 342 Attack at 3 stacks not sure if this is a static number or based off your other stats.

[Chardrizard]

What did people say about PLD unwanted? sup speedrun with PLD.




Speedrun CC :P

[Elexia]

What did people say about PLD unwanted? sup speedrun with PLD.

Speedrun CC next

Gtfo. Let people live in their delusions. Besides, they're still not done adjusting either apparently especially if they get some more feedback, so we'll see how this all ends up but this community is like a dog, they get something in mind (PLD not wanted) they'll stick to it >.>

[TheFatHousecat]

Archer and bard weapon skills now affect Shot recast time.

[ejiboo]

can't deny that bard/archer gets the short end of the stick and everything else seems to be for the better. paladin still sucks but i'm sure most of us knew that was going to be the case. we can always dream right!?

[Hoshikogi]

I suggest an overhaul to Wardrum! (pld/gla's one and only AoE WS). Times have changed; Wardrum just can't compete with the newer job mechanics AoE hate. The ability states it generates "massive enmity" against all foes in the area, but that hardly seems the case anymore.

For heaven's sake my Lv. 38 BLM friend pulled hate from me (Lv. 50 PLD in full enmity gear --> +90 emity) with a simple fire (his gear was less than adequate at the time for damage dealing) leaving all the Lv. 46 mobs hate list in the yellow state. I activate sentinal+wardrum (with on mob on me because i used provoke and had divine veil) and the mobs still remained in the yellow hate state. I then used Rampart to save his life and grab them all back. I learned from this that a simple provoke taunt contained more emity than a move stating it provided "Massive Emity" on a one minute cooldown.

Obviously something is wrong here. Either Wardrum's damage/emityburst needs to be drasticly increased or it's recast reduced to roughly 20-25 seconds to match it's current, actual potency.

[Kaith]

The ARC/BRD nerf feels like such a kick in the crotch. We were already bottom of the pile DD wise. I get that we also buff other people but if we were already bottom of the pile then why lower our damage even more?

Like others have said, a lot of us levelled ARC to be a DD and we've been shoehorned into a support role which we've adapted to. Except now they are reducing our DD capabilities even more. Sure we could just stick to ARC instead of BRD but that wouldn't change the fact that we're giving up all our support abilities to still be the bottom DD.

And yes sometimes BRD did out DD other DD's like people have said. However, if all things are equal (i.e. player skill + gear) then that doesn't happen. It requires a good BRD or crappy DD's to happen.

[Raikki]

What did people say about PLD unwanted? sup speedrun with PLD.

You could do speedruns with PLD tank before the patch, too. It was greatly inferior then and it's still greatly inferior. Both of your final boss screenshots are well over 22 minutes and not even finished yet while everyone's been farming these instances with WAR tank in 17-19 minutes/run for ages now. It's always been about efficiency. I don't know what you thought you were proving.

[Rau]

BRD DPS has dropped by about 10. And it's not like it decreases the worth of BRD in party play. They're still just as important as ever.


It sucks, but its not the worst that could have happened.